My Stance on fem seeds in a brief statement

hovering said:

I was gifted a Fem ICE seed and ran it. Huge plant. Horrible smoke.

That experience ruined Fems for me, won't run one ever again.

It bums me out to see so many strains released as fem only.

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You think Ice was sucky smoke because it came from a fem seed? That's kind of silly.

hov..Have you smoked ICE that was reg to know the high was different..or maybe the ICE has like low thc...either way? Just curious as my result's have been stellar but never ICE so....trying to put validity to your statement...please don't take that the wrong way I mean prove out a point...outdoor's when I was growing there were no fem seed's ha ha just seed's...you grew you plucked the male's (not allway's but) tended the patch and thought nothing about it...60's 70's......growing in the valley of the giant's!! redwood city...now I grow 4X4 stelth indoor's and it certainly serves a purpose necessary for the "gheto farmer's"...I'll put up one of my bud's against any one..not being cocky just truthfull...Fem. LSD BARNEY"S!!as in poker beet it or bet it! I may not win but I certainly won't loose respect.If I bassed my seed type's the way you do I would have missed sooo much!!.Remember ALL THING"S SERVE A PURPOSE!!.jackView attachment 2222376View attachment 2222377

See Just as many people like fem seeds and thats great there are sure plenty of them out there.
A Few Points I have absolutely grown out fem seeds next to regular and what I saw was in the fem I got good stability even in some strains but in the non fem version I was always able to find a super elite cutting that really stood out above all the rest and thats really what I am trying to get across. I also see the benefits to people with limited space etc what it really boils down to each grower being happy with his gardens product if its all positive then what or where the seeds came from don't matter

Sub

Different strokes for different folks!!! Finaly a real answer it's what works in your world!!peace my brother's and sister's !variety is the spice of life!!jack

I have fairly limited space, but I still prefer reg seeds. A good part of the fun with each grow from seed is the anticipation for pre-flowers. I like to make a game out of guessing sex as early as possible. Looking closely at my plants as they preflower has the added benefit of teaching me more about their growth habits than I would have otherwise known.

well it's good your not in need!!cause in my world that would cancell the grow! if room's not full......

It doesn't take too much extra room. When growing from seed, I veg for 6 weeks (from sprout), and I can sex them in 10 days from 12/12. The plants are still relatively small, and can be packed together until I sex them. By the time I need the space, I have culled the males and can spread them out. In the end, I grow out as many females as I would have with feminized seeds.

That is to say that there are many methods to develop a crop, and some of them can accommodate reg seeds without much fuss. Just be flexible with your style.

So the only real difference is a few more seed's to start with then...? How many do you usually flower at once and how big is your space?? jack..not locked into anything just didn't understand the concept just more to pick between I was more concerned with my rotation....plant's comming out 3 week's and my clone's/seed's will be ready to drop in..no difference for room just different plant's and my ghetto grow is only 4X4 square! 6-9 lst'd plant's going in 30" and finishing just under 5 foot.

I wiil never order fem seeds again.Ive seen to many go hermi under the least bit of stress..In the real world,shit happens plants have to see alittle stress.Havent been growing inside long but ordered a bunch of fems through nirvana 3yrs ago.So i seen them indoors and out..

sandiegojack2 said:

So the only real difference is a few more seed's to start with then...? How many do you usually flower at once and how big is your space?? jack..not locked into anything just didn't understand the concept just more to pick between I was more concerned with my rotation....plant's comming out 3 week's and my clone's/seed's will be ready to drop in..no difference for room just different plant's and my ghetto grow is only 4X4 square! 6-9 lst'd plant's going in 30" and finishing just under 5 foot.

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I have a 3'x4' space, but usually scrog with it as a 3x3 and 9 plants. When looking for new mothers, I sprout 15-20 seeds (I sprouted 17 this time, but 2 of them were freebie fems). I also skip the scrog and just top before growing out (ala Uncle Ben's stickied 'Top for 4 colas' technique). I cut back the plants to 2 nodes midway through week 4, and give them 10 days to recover before flipping to 12/12. I am now 10 days into flowering (20 days since they were 4" tall, and this is what I have:



The largest (Jillybean) is 24". I hope she finishes under 4'. I also have two shorter plants (~18"), but I'm growing them out to see what develops. Pardon the unfinished grow room, it's being renovated presently.

I really want some tga strains, but I have no time, space or money for males. I agree with sub 100% on the issue, but in some situations fems are the only option. examples: gurellia grows, small spaces, and people looking to sample many strains

I'd have to say regs all the way for gorilla grows you can start indoors and make hundreds of clones for your outdoor but fems only come 5 to a pack it would cost thousands of dollars and some seeds won't sprout you can make clones from fems but to make a good stable outdoor female crop you must clone

cary schellie said:

I really want some tga strains, but I have no time, space or money for males. I agree with sub 100% on the issue, but in some situations fems are the only option. examples: gurellia grows, small spaces, and people looking to sample many strains

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It comes down to personal preference, arguing or insulting people about it is a waste of time. We all have our own situations and grows. Whats best for one might not be for the next guy.

I guess im right on the fence. I have 6 strains as keepers right now. Half are from fem seeds the rest is all TGA gear.

To each his own. I commend Sub for sticking with his guns. In our society its uncommon to see someone sacrifice profit for their beliefs. That alone says a lot about you Sub. Hats off to ya

ink the world said:

It comes down to personal preference, arguing or insulting people about it is a waste of time. We all have our own situations and grows. Whats best for one might not be for the next guy.

I guess im right on the fence. I have 6 strains as keepers right now. Half are from fem seeds the rest is all TGA gear.

To each his own. I commend Sub for sticking with his guns. In our society its uncommon to see someone sacrifice profit for their beliefs. That alone says a lot about you Sub. Hats off to ya

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i think everyone is behaving themselves pretty good considering the issue....i have seen this topic get down right nasty!......props to you guys for keeping it real.
....that being said, i prefer regs, mostly because i enjoy the process like nitegazer said.....but i also have the space, and am legal.........if i wasn't , and the only way i could grow myself my meds, fems would be much more attractive to me. That would be a drag however, not just to have to go stealth, but i feel in my heart that overall quality would be sacrificed going with fem, it is too "cookie cutter" for me.....imho

NUG>>>felt same way after growing outdoor's my whole life...You may be right haven't done long enough to hnow yet! But so far I'm as happy with the product as regular seed's...netx grow by chances wil be reg seed's and I will just pop more seed's so as to have a "full house" for my room (I have no room I envy you!) also I enjoyed watching the plant's "take ther sexual stance" but feel this is little loss for real quality yield's of superior bud..If I didn't clone would also find cost of fem's too high, no money here have to be very frugal..as of this point I would contest the statement that you would feel you sacraficed quality for the fem's...if i could i'd send you a nug and ask you to be honnest with your assessment of it..I am sure you would be honnest! so at cropping interested?? jack..no wasted time on your side just a simple blind test! 62yo fart here wishing you the best truely!

.....i look at it this way......fems are like a package of cookies you get at walmart.....consistant, popular, tasty, covenient, standard.......regs are like a batch of grandmas cookies.....home made, made with love, warm and gooey, family recipe passed down, eyes closed with a smile goodness, and each batch is just slightly different, but always dank in their own way......got to love grandmas!

bluntmassa1 said:

I'd have to say regs all the way for gorilla grows you can start indoors and make hundreds of clones for your outdoor but fems only come 5 to a pack it would cost thousands of dollars and some seeds won't sprout you can make clones from fems but to make a good stable outdoor female crop you must clone

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What?!?! I think you're a bit confused. You can clone plants from fem beans just the same as you clone from reg. Reg beans don't sprout sometimes too you know, not just fems. And if you want your crop to be all the same (I assume that's what you mean by stable), yeah you'd plant clones. But again, you can clone plants from fems the same as you do from reg. Your post doesn't make any sense to me.

nugbuckets said:

.....i look at it this way......fems are like a package of cookies you get at walmart.....consistant, popular, tasty, covenient, standard.......regs are like a batch of grandmas cookies.....home made, made with love, warm and gooey, family recipe passed down, eyes closed with a smile goodness, and each batch is just slightly different, but always dank in their own way......got to love grandmas!

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That's the way I compare breeders. Depending on who the seeds are coming from and what the genetics are, I might prefer a pack of fems from breeder A to a pack of regs from breeder B. Just because a breeder has regs doesn't mean automatically that the weed is going to be on the level of grandma.

I did say you can clone fem seeds read closer I stated that you need to clone to have a stable crop fem or reg don't really matter but there just as good for gorilla growers cause dude said fems are better for gorilla growers when clones are the best

Capt. Stickyfingers said:

What?!?! I think you're a bit confused. You can clone plants from fem beans just the same as you clone from reg. Reg beans don't sprout sometimes too you know, not just fems. And if you want your crop to be all the same (I assume that's what you mean by stable), yeah you'd plant clones. But again, you can clone plants from fems the same as you do from reg. Your post doesn't make any sense to me.

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Capt. Stickyfingers said:

That's the way I compare breeders. Depending on who the seeds are coming from and what the genetics are, I might prefer a pack of fems from breeder A to a pack of regs from breeder B. Just because a breeder has regs doesn't mean automatically that the weed is going to be on the level of grandma.

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exactly.....thats like saying all grandmas are equal, and we all know that is not the case!