My Stance on fem seeds in a brief statement

subcool said:

One more time.
The fem seeds are for pussies thing is a joke among friends many who actually grow fem seeds.
It's like a I'm with shithead shirt.

No one will ever convince me its not a short cut but then I am never in the top selling seeds!
The most purchased product in our industry is a 5 pack of Fem seeds and the next 9 top sold products are the same thing.
As I said I take this stance at a HUGE financial cost and the whole point of the post was to clarify MY position.
I am just some pothead with a point of view and also a bit stubborn I recommend everyone buy the top fem seeds and give em a shot and form your own opinion I am wrong quite often ask MzJill

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I am in love with with Plushberry and was wondering if I could make fem seeds of of my plants? I don't want to sell seeds, just make female seeds with your genetics. Also, I have grown a lot od DNA fem seeds and have never had one issue. Also, it is some of the best smoke I have ever had!

i find genetics hidden in mids. good genetics.....lol.
(and have a free clone source)

lahadaextranjera said:

But what do u do if ur favourite strain is available on in Feminised such as Jamaican Dream or anything from Eva Seeds or Greenhouse??

Would u Stamen-it and start from scratch ??? HHHMmmm, I have wondered about this before ?

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i don't have a favorite strain. i like an Indie dom; fruity, sour, cheesy.........whatever. i smoke for the THC, first and foremost. i wanna get really high, lol. that's my favorite strain.

@ scrog me too. love my bag seed ive found so many plants worth growing and after a lot of practice i know what to look for early so i can chop them if they are shit.

@lotta extras jera i dont know allottasomething, i would breed it out with any male i really liked or had similar traits, then breed the offspring together then cube back to the original mother then breed that offspring together to get back as close as possible to original genetics, this means growing quite a few plants and ending up with more or less phenos or some different phenos than the original had but still close

really there are several ways to do it, but thats one way in a nut shell

ZBubbaKush said:

Seriously!!!!! this is a great point and also why I really like seed companies that do things the way mother nature intended.

I really respect comapies like TGA, Mr. Nice, Bodi, etc… that doesn’t have a fem line and really care about the gene pool that they work so hard to achieve.

I think its ridiculous that companies put out beans with no real skill involved and just spray chemicals such as Colloidal Silver or Rodelization on female plants to make fem seeds……. Sounds like some Monsanto shit to me!

Thanks Sub for having a belief and standing by it no matter what people say or do. We are not sheep brother and we march to our own drum!

-Z

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actually making fems the CORRECT way involves skill.
and mr nice has cbd crew seeds,its a mr nice resin seeds collab,they are fem seeds.
and when it comes to mother nature and such,we're growing weed indoors under hids,hardly the way mother nature intended is it?
also if we left things to mother nature then all these great things we now have that save ppls lives wouldnt have been invented/made.
ofcourse regs are more important than fems,i used to avoid fems,but then i actually decided to grow some to see what they are like.
since then i have had only good experiences with fems.

Irie Genetics said:

My new theory...
Femenized seeds are like hookers in Hollywood. You're convinced it's a perfect female for weeks until one morning you wake up and find it's balls hanging out!
By then you're fucked and too embarassed to ask for help!​

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ive been growing for many years and ive actually had less herm issues growing fems than regs.i think ppl are jumping on the bandwagon,many of you probably have never grown fems.

most good strains from green house are sold reg at mr nice and I refuse to buy fem seeds mr. nice has awsome shit and then there's tga and other dutch and calli breeders that sell good reg seeds and I'm sure I'm not the only one who don't buy fem seeds I don't want to buy from barney's farm or green house because they only have fems they do have good shit but I really like mr. nice he gives 18 seeds per pack on sea of seeds and 15 on attitude and they have some nice classic strains I'm not sure about tga I'm kinda new but I will try something he has like that ace of spades sounds nice but their are too many good reg strains to buy from fem seed companys if they realize their buisness is going down hill they will sell regs again

lahadaextranjera said:

But what do u do if ur favourite strain is available on in Feminised such as Jamaican Dream or anything from Eva Seeds or Greenhouse??

Would u Stamen-it and start from scratch ??? HHHMmmm, I have wondered about this before ?

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Blunt!! Haven't ever had problem's with Barney's love his LSD and some other's...great quality and real life yield's my grow now is barney's ?? save's me having to pull many plant's in week 5..also grown greenhouse and dutch passion like both..variety is the spice of life!!have respect for your post! just don't agree my brother...these plant's are both sweet! LSD And G13/haze ...jackView attachment 2221928

As I said Lots of great growers run fems and love em.
I'm be curious how the G-13 compares to G-13 X NL bred by Blaze best hybrids of G I ever smoked.

Hard to establish a baseline when reefer is all so damn amazing anyway

Sub

sub..not sure really can't compare as I do not have the knowledge you do! but for a person who has been smoking for over 50 year's and grew up in cali and grew for 22 year's out door's I can attest to it's mind numbing high very much like nevile's...I smoke to get waisted..won't sugar coat it taste is fine but I allways ask if it does the job! and how much how long..I have access to seed's through other sources such as breeder's in cali (Old friend's in bay area) and "gifted" seed's friend's are proud of..Have little space now for grow's so fem seed's are a real blessing no more fuck 3 male's crap not full enough to grow my space as i only grow full 4X4 space for flowering! The northern light's I grew did not impress me..gave the seed's to friend! lot's of bud but week...looked awesome smoked awesome had to smoke two joint's to get a buzz! but yielded over my normal...8-12 oz's per plant...30" vege and lst'd...14-20 cola's each....Don't believe breader's estimates of THC..some with low number's rock my world! Is ther any way to judge that would be equitable??fair and usefull? like your post's you are an honnest man..hard to find! And you have conviction's! thank's for all the input! and you can't judge the G13 surely by my gheto grow! But I will try to give accurate result's when I crop "real world" numbers for quanity and quality! jack

I know barney's farm is good I personaly don't wan't to buy fems I just don't like how these company's only sell fems so I refuse to buy from them I would like to try the blue cheese but I havn't grown all the reg strains I would like to plus I would also like to try my own crosses to see how good they come out see if I can find killer males maybe even sell a great strain to sub to sell to the world

sandiegojack2 said:

Blunt!! Haven't ever had problem's with Barney's love his LSD and some other's...great quality and real life yield's my grow now is barney's ?? save's me having to pull many plant's in week 5..also grown greenhouse and dutch passion like both..variety is the spice of life!!have respect for your post! just don't agree my brother...these plant's are both sweet! LSD And G13/haze ...jackView attachment 2221924View attachment 2221925View attachment 2221928View attachment 2221929View attachment 2221930

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I like fem seeds...they have caused me no greater issues than reg seeds...have had both hermie...
There is no difference in plants grown from fem or reg seed..they aren't like mutant freaks... The only difference is that I know that the plant that will result from a fem seed is feminized..
Not everyone has the time, space, money, or inclination to grow out dozens of plants to find a "keeper"

I will even pay more for fem seeds just because I know that you get fewer seeds with fem pollen then male pollen, and the breeder has hopefully already done the pheno hunt...

I heard how awesome TGA strains are... So I have ordered a few strains and already started my first subcool seeds Jilly Bean... Rest assured though that if I find a keeper before I get tired of starting and growing seeds I will have some fem subcool strains...

I am a small tent grower, so I can't really afford to keep growing out males...

So I pay to skip the guess work, until I come across a company I hear good things about but that doesn't make or carry their strains in a pre feminized variety, such as Subcool Seeds.

scroglodyte said:

i don't have a favorite strain. i like an Indie dom; fruity, sour, cheesy.........whatever. i smoke for the THC, first and foremost. i wanna get really high, lol. that's my favorite strain.

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The same reason I'm growing White Russian and Double Dutch (Serious Seeds)

polyarcturus said:

@ scrog me too. love my bag seed ive found so many plants worth growing and after a lot of practice i know what to look for early so i can chop them if they are shit.

@lotta extras jera i dont know allottasomething, i would breed it out with any male i really liked or had similar traits, then breed the offspring together then cube back to the original mother then breed that offspring together to get back as close as possible to original genetics, this means growing quite a few plants and ending up with more or less phenos or some different phenos than the original had but still close

really there are several ways to do it, but thats one way in a nut shell

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How about I just send YOU the seeds and u can have a go for me !! ??

lahadaextranjera said:

How about I just send YOU the seeds and u can have a go for me !! ??

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umm sure but where talking a few months or so i would prefer to give something in return as collateral just pm me

polyarcturus said:

umm sure but where talking a few months or so i would prefer to give something in return as collateral just pm me

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Cool, it could take years !! I'm not going anywhere. The plant that I'm most interested in is Jamaican Dream, we don't know what's in it - they won't say. I even asked them at the show!

http://www.evaseeds.com/en/category/variedades/jamaican-dream/


They're now saying it's 90% Sativa wheres b4 they said mainly Indica. I suspect a tiny % of Ruderalis as they show pistils in veg (have some outdoors now) and we know that it could hardly be possible for a Sat to finish in 42-45 days - trust me it's ready in that time !!

I reckon the ones in the garden will have seeds due to the new relaxed laws and shed load of newbie outdoor growers who aren't culling out males.

pm later got to get jiffys and fert from downstairs !!

polyarcturus said:

umm sure but where talking a few months or so i would prefer to give something in return as collateral just pm me

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ps - no collteral needed, kind payment gratefully accepted !!!! .....................;~)

I have never used feminized seeds and dont plant to. I like the males and even let on pollinate a plant or two once in a while.

I rarely end up with males but when I do its a chance to get some seeds of my own making and see how they turn out. Its exciting.

Great discussion and thanks to everyone for keeping it polite!

Sub

I was gifted a Fem ICE seed and ran it. Huge plant. Horrible smoke.

That experience ruined Fems for me, won't run one ever again.

edit: I am not saying the smoke sucked because it was from a FEM, just that the smoke sucked. I am certain I couldn't tell the difference between FEM and REG from smoking, but I am old school and really like working with REG seeds so that is what I do.

It bums me out to see so many strains released as fem only.