What's the worst strain and breeder you've dealt with?

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kindnug

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Mr. Nice isn't so expensive since you get more beans and personally never had a hermi bean. I've also had packs that were supposed to be 15 and had 18.
Hermi are more natural than everyone wants to believe. 60's-70's before indoor started I'm sure there were hermi, especially with commercial crops.
Sometimes it's stress, but it can just be that bean. Multiple hermi. with no light leaks or excess heat and it's in the strain genes.

What is the first killer female to be cloned and for how long it was kept?...I'd like to know that
 
Natural Gas

Natural Gas

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fssalaska said:
Worst strain, hmm want to say AK48 the shit was like smoking horse hay also blue berry. Worst breeder without a doubt Samsara seeds, My last crop was Samsara seeds Crazy Miss Hyde 2 crops I had some hermaphrodites also with Samsara seeds Mazar, I know this is most the time the growers fult for stressing the plant in some way but I have been growing for 3 1/2 years now and only had hermaphrodites problems with that breeder. Crazy miss hide and there mazar is very good smoke but stay away from Samsara seeds fem seeds or watch your crop like a hawk.
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Sorry to hear about your Samsara experience...One of my Best experiences is with Samsara's (fem) Holy Grail 69...I get monecious male flowering occasionally with f1s from different very reputable breeders...However, NO MALE FLOWERING APPEARED ON MY SAMSARA GEAR...Male flowering on a female plant is not always stress related and does not mean the plant is a hermaphrodite...It is really no big deal if you check your plants often...Just pluck them off early with a wet cotton ball...They don't "usually" come back...Comes with experience. I have been growing since "Tricky Dick" was prez...Samsara is "Top Shelf" gear...So we will have to agree to disagree on this one...FWIW
 
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HazeHeaven

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Prawn Connery said:
Well in Shanti and Neville's defence, as least when you buy a Mr Nice strain you get 18 seeds in a pack. And SSH is to this day still an outstanding strain, while Neville's Haze would have to be one of my all-time favourites. You're right about the variability, but the genetics are there. And with 18 seeds in a pack you can generally find a nice clone mother.[/QUOTE

MNS is nowhere near the money grubbers that Sensi are. $200+ for 10 seeds is just too much. Especially when it's not even close to the best stuff you can get. I think MNS is a bit overpriced but you are right in that you do get more seeds. There should be an option to buy 10 for a little less money. I think the reason MNS gives you so many seeds is that there is a lot of pheno hunting to be done and they want to give you better odds.

I like to run 6-7 strains with 12-14 plants at once so I just really don't have the space or time to run out a whole 18 pack in a short time span. I like a lot of variety even though I only smoke once or twice a week. I think Sensi and DJ are much more overpriced for what you get than MNS but MNS still forces you to pay a lot of money to get their genetics because you are forced to buy 18 seeds.
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Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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i've had real good experience with samsara as a whole, i got their freebies of crazy miss hyde, Spicy white devile and their green love potion. all of them were quality smoke. the green love potion is an indoor sativa, didn't fair too well outdoors compared to my indica and indica hybrid clones i've kept, nor as well as Samsara's crazy miss hyde. CMH is a sick NL hybrid, really stretchy, fast vegging plant that takes alot of abuse and flowers in 8-9 weeks probably faster if you know what you're doing. spicy white devil is indeed spicy, mine came out tasting like "hot tomales" candy but a little bit berry.
 
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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i didn't love the dj's bb that i've smoked, i prefer hybrids that use his BB, it seems to do great in hybrids but standalone its a hit or miss genotype.
 
goodro wilson

goodro wilson

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I'd have to disagree with samsara being "top shelf" not the worst but there are much better did enjoy swd and some freebies from them turned out decent nothing to write home about
The ONLY breeder I had problems with was cali connection and that was Tahoe og 4 of them did t germinate when 30 other strains a did fine in same conditions all diff breeders... However I'm not a swerve hater I blame it on them being pick n mix still haven't ran his gear bc that turned me off I guess
Ghs lemon skunk was a very finicky plant had 5 of them with about 20 other stains and it was the only one to have problems... But smoke was decent and I'm sure I could dial it in
Also ghs chemdog which I expected it was a beautiful plant as far as bud structure but def not the best chem out there ha
Let see had a dud pineapple chunk that stalled out at about 5 inches again with other plants thriving In same condition in Barney's defense pc turned out fire and one of my favs I've grown the ones that weren't runts
One company I would steer clear from is ch9 they have promising crosses but everything I ran from them was trash mostly free IRS though especially didn't like their jack33
Lets see ran nirvanas bubblicious bc it was cheap and I needed 50 of the same seeds some Hermes but I blame it on a bagseed that hermed
Had some light leaks I think and emerald triangles FEMs all hermed
Strawberry cough from sagarthma was trash and I THINK those are the only ones I had any problems with
Don't make my opinion deciding factors bc lots of the 100's of strains I tried were pick n mix
And sometimes it takes a whole pack to find keepers
 
tampee

tampee

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HazeHeaven said:
MNS is nowhere near the money grubbers that Sensi are. $200+ for 10 seeds is just too much. Especially when it's not even close to the best stuff you can get. I think MNS is a bit overpriced but you are right in that you do get more seeds. There should be an option to buy 10 for a little less money. I think the reason MNS gives you so many seeds is that there is a lot of pheno hunting to be done and they want to give you better odds.

I like to run 6-7 strains with 12-14 plants at once so I just really don't have the space or time to run out a whole 18 pack in a short time span. I like a lot of variety even though I only smoke once or twice a week. I think Sensi and DJ are much more overpriced for what you get than MNS but MNS still forces you to pay a lot of money to get their genetics because you are forced to buy 18 seeds.
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if you buy from the auction their dirt cheap I got mango haze for just over $100 and I got 22 beans. but you go to a seedbank your paying a lot more and getting less beans then you pay shipping and god knows how old they are.
also every strain from every breeder takes some selection to find an elite pheno I don't care if its chemdog x og kush x blue dream your still going to find that 1 in 100 plant that dominates all. the way I see it mns just gives you a better shot in a pack to find that 1 in 100 pheno. but I got to agree their seedbank prices are high but not as bad as a lot but you go to their auction its about the cheapest place to get seeds when you figure you usually get around 20 seeds per pack.
 
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xkushx

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racerboy71 said:
i've growm th seeds mk ultra, and that shit is way beyond dank.. it's the only thing i have run by them, but i was impressed as were others..

the worst luck i had with any breeder has been alphakronik.. i got a 10 pack of the bubba loves and white diamonds, and got none of the bl's to germ... gave away the white diamonds with a warning they might not germ, and i think he said he got zero out of his pack too...






i was a bit of an ass with jay from alpha, i'll take my part in that, but i've never had that kind of problems with anyone's gear before..
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the pheno that everyone calls the fabric softener pheno of mk ultra is amazing. its worth the small yeild. if you let it go an extra week it tastes and smells like bananas
 
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MsMittens

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RedMan420 said:
Arjan haze #1 from greenhouse seeds shit flowered for ever and the smoke was not worth the wait , and Pineapple Chunk from Barney's Farm shit had no flavor and shit wasn't potent at all.
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dude ive grown Pineapple Chunk from BF like 15 times from seed and it even got accidentally hit w some Chem D pollen n grew out those too. it was hard to control and not a huge yeilder by itself but the smoke was so oily and expansive i could barely hit it when my stomach was acting up cuz the high was so intense it would turn my stomach for a minute till it hit me so hard i just layed down n eventually went to sleep completely baked, that was by itself, even tho i only got like an oz off of a 6 ft plant, it was my fault for not topping it that time. once it got crossed w the Chem D it was a huge yeilder and some of the most uniquely awesome smoke ive ever had. and i hate Barneys Farm, the worst plants/seeds ive ever had were from them, i bought a whole pack of Violator Kush that didnt even pop, but i gotta tell the truth about my experiance with the Pineapple Chunk
 
sonar

sonar

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goodro wilson said:
I'd have to disagree with samsara being "top shelf" not the worst but there are much better did enjoy swd and some freebies from them turned out decent nothing to write home about
The ONLY breeder I had problems with was cali connection and that was Tahoe og 4 of them did t germinate when 30 other strains a did fine in same conditions all diff breeders... However I'm not a swerve hater I blame it on them being pick n mix still haven't ran his gear bc that turned me off I guess
Ghs lemon skunk was a very finicky plant had 5 of them with about 20 other stains and it was the only one to have problems... But smoke was decent and I'm sure I could dial it in
Also ghs chemdog which I expected it was a beautiful plant as far as bud structure but def not the best chem out there ha
Let see had a dud pineapple chunk that stalled out at about 5 inches again with other plants thriving In same condition in Barney's defense pc turned out fire and one of my favs I've grown the ones that weren't runts
One company I would steer clear from is ch9 they have promising crosses but everything I ran from them was trash mostly free IRS though especially didn't like their jack33
Lets see ran nirvanas bubblicious bc it was cheap and I needed 50 of the same seeds some Hermes but I blame it on a bagseed that hermed
Had some light leaks I think and emerald triangles FEMs all hermed
Strawberry cough from sagarthma was trash and I THINK those are the only ones I had any problems with
Don't make my opinion deciding factors bc lots of the 100's of strains I tried were pick n mix
And sometimes it takes a whole pack to find keepers
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I never grew anything from GHS but I heard his Lemon Skunk was one of their better strains. Good to know.
I have GHS Trainwreck and Himalayan Gold but won't grow them out. Hear they are mediocre at best and hermie prone.
 
Pacificplanter

Pacificplanter

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After reading the reports here, I am almost afraid to grow out my Sensi seeds Hashplant and TH Seeds MK Ultra. Will I be wasting my time, space, and more money trying these two strains out, or has anyone here grown or smoked either can tell me if they're worth it?
I can say this about what my least favorite breeders, those out there who sell only, or almost only feminized strains. Some people like them, that's fine by me. However, personally, I have had nothing but problems with them, even though I have had some mixed results. Some of Sannie's and DNA's feminized beans have been serious dank. Again, a mixed bag for me. From here on out, I grow only from regular seed stock, and avoid those breeders who refuse to sell regular beans. I ignore almost all Cannabis Cup results. We need a Pot Snob Cup with REAL Pot Snob judges who know and grow and/or medicate with a wide variety of strains. Oh yeah, Barney's, Greenhouse, and California Connection are banned from all Pot Snob competition! Peace.
 
Frogmann

Frogmann

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tree king said:
it took me a while to figure it out but one thing you have to realize is most people on this website have no idea what there talkin about so you have to be very careful who you listen to. the quicker you realize that the better off you'l be.
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lmao .. word up!


Have had both good and bad experiences from most of the "original" seed companies/breeders. Nothing I feel needs to be said in this thread. Some breeders and resellers I refuse to send money to out of simple principal. I vote with my wallet.
 
ProfessorPotSnob

ProfessorPotSnob

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Kite High said:
THSEEDS S.A.G.E was an easy to grow strain, uniform outstanding potency
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I grew the Hog last year and all of the plants wound up in my Garbage . It was a joke and the plants were more Hemp like than Marijuana . But yet the Bubble Gum pheno I favor came from them back when they were CIA .. I think everyone with a lineup has some hit and miss genetics ..

I dont hold anything against THCSeeds but I wont grow Dutch gear ever again after that round .. On a note the freebies were winners once again from this order with Attitude
 
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