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looks like people from the NY Times are delusional and smoked out too


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-helped-along-by-the-fbi.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Dab710 said:

looks like people from the NY Times are delusional and smoked out too


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-helped-along-by-the-fbi.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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People at the NY Times have been known for their delusions for some time now LoL. Fighting terrorism is a tough game brother, but to do so in the homeland under criminal law is nearly impossible, if not a joke. Law makers and lawyers play a game with your sense of security here, but faced with war these clowns are as clueless as the link portrays.

TheMan13 said:

People at the NY Times have been known for their delusions for some time now LoL. Fighting terrorism is a tough game brother, but to do so in the homeland under criminal law is nearly impossible, if not a joke. Law makers and lawyers play a game with your sense of security here, but faced with war these clowns are as clueless as the link portrays.

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They have also known to be spot on in certain instances. My comment was made in the spirit of sarcasm. Sorry, included the wrong smiley
Fighting terrorism isn't really that tough a game since this country has been thriving off it for years, and this country has reduced the phrase of 'fighting terrorism' to more of a subterfuge.
My dad was in special forces out in Panama when the School of Assassins got started, and I've been told some
pretty wild stuff first-person.
This country has been doing it in the homelands for years or there wouldn't be things like Operation Northwoods.
The U.S started Al-Qaeda. I don't see the war on terrorism as anything more than funding for a failing drug war, and so do alot of others
in the military (past & present) I've spoke to first-hand like Celerino Castillo. He wrote a whole book on it.

My main comments about this issue are concerning coverups because there seems to be plenty here.
Why were two men identified in the crowd, one wearing a Seal Team Black Op hat both with backpacks in the area right before the blast, and then photo'd after the blast in a different area clear of the blast with missing backpacks. They are also seen on camera leaving the blast zone without backpacks.
Who are they, and what's the deal with that ?

Why is the FBI telling you to ignore the coverage of these two unidentified men ?

Why did the police say that one of the brothers ran over the other, and witnesses are saying it was the police that ran over the brother, and then pumped bullets into him ?

And most importantly, what's the deal with this ?

http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/abdul-rahman-ali-al-harbi-bombing-person-of-interest-has-6-saudi-terrorists-in-family5-more-are-in-gitmo-47371/


Even Glenn Beck is calling coverup



I'm only interested in the truth

First off, having followed Jihad and protected this country against it for decades, you and the others quoted lack a fundamental understanding of the problem. It is this clear gap in your understanding that allow you to put these square blocks in these round holes.

Back in the 80's, during the cold war, "urban training" was done in secret and we sweated slander of the black flag crowd even back then. At the end of the 80's I was asked to handle a little situation in Panama with unquestionable success. This was my generation getting the job done and we did so with PAs mounted and blaring heavy metal music. Seem odd? Today, with the lawfare of your law makers we would all be criminals




Note the affixed bayonets on our M16s, a fact of the matter that would even shock the current President of the United States ...

the problem is most people cant see the truth if it smacked them in the face...and they dont think evil shit happens

[video=youtube;JVKRiBHm3T4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVKRiBHm3T4[/video]

... When I share my "stories" here with you all of growing, I am at threat of felony. When I share my literal "war stories", I am at threat of Treason. The only crime on this land for which the sentence of hanging still stands. Stand up and cry for freedom and I'll have your back ...

The question is, who is to gain the most from civil unrest and terrorism? Police? Military? Contracters? Lawyers? Politicians? Banks? Gun Manufacturers? ect.

War profiteering has gotten out of control. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_profiteering

While the common citizens lose liberties, freedom, and peace of mind..not to mention your savings and retirement.

Maybe those creating the problems are the ones who intend to gain the most?

War is a racket, and the tax payers are the victims.

Totally agreed brother

TheMan13 said:

People at the NY Times have been known for their delusions for some time now LoL. Fighting terrorism is a tough game brother, but to do so in the homeland under criminal law is nearly impossible, if not a joke. Law makers and lawyers play a game with your sense of security here, but faced with war these clowns are as clueless as the link portrays.

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If what we saw in Boston last week was criminal, and not military enforcement, why? Your communities are all covered with swat teams and armor. I'm betting this kid gets his day in court and fries. Sounds like criminal judgment to me, and those courts will prove entirely capable.

Obama and Holder have made Guantanamo/military tribunals a standing joke in face of their lawfare. No one has went or left there in five years and know one knows WTF the plan is?

[video=youtube;BQZ2Lsi4NXE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQZ2Lsi4NXE[/video]

... They have charged the Fort Hood gunman with "work place violence" here for fuck sake! WTF is up with that?!?

Hasan murdered 13 unarmed soldiers as he yelled "Allahu Akbar!". Obama and Holder knew that as well then as they do now

[video=youtube;9fNN_ETf50o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fNN_ETf50o[/video]

[video=youtube;myxojwq22-Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myxojwq22-Q[/video]

TheMan13 said:

First off, having followed Jihad and protected this country against it for decades, you and the others quoted lack a fundamental understanding of the problem. It is this clear gap in your understanding that allow you to put these square blocks in these round holes.

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Not sure why any difference in opinion equals any lack of understanding anything on my part.
Especially considering you don't know me, have never met me, and have nearly zero data to have accessed any personal understanding of me,...maybe it's the pedestal you're speaking from that is giving you this weird macro-micro/black-white perspective on everything in it's right place.
The 60's were a little different times than the 80's in Panama. Besides back then, people like my dad taste tested the water or custom designed it for people like today's 'The Kill Team'
I have talked to people with quite a bit more military experience, a bit higher up, and their opinions differ from yours.
Does that make your opinion irrelevant? nope
It is others who refuse to see things with an open-mind that has allowed politicians to take up the role of shepherds.

i thought radicalized was a haircut

Dab710 said:

Not sure why any difference in opinion equals any lack of understanding anything on my part.
Especially considering you don't know me, have never met me, and have nearly zero data to have accessed any personal understanding of me,...maybe it's the pedestal you're speaking from that is giving you this weird macro-micro/black-white perspective on everything in it's right place.
The 60's were a little different times than the 80's in Panama. Besides back then, people like my dad taste tested the water or custom designed it for people like today's 'The Kill Team'
I have talked to people with quite a bit more military experience, a bit higher up, and their opinions differ from yours.
Does that make your opinion irrelevant? nope
It is others who refuse to see things with an open-mind that has allowed politicians to take up the role of shepherds.

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What a fucking joke! I've went out of my way to remain respectful with you regardless of your childish ignorance in this thread. You may want to revisit our back and forth here before you decide to get personal with me ...

Shiek's a freak.

Ale' fu.

The back story/conspiracy theory on the Army Major shrink guy at fort hood is he was in charge of evaluating soldiers as they came back from deployment. He informed his superior and base commander that there was a secret islamic faction inside the heads of some of the soldiers. The commander told him to never speak of this again or face psychiatric imprisonment. It was also said he told a journalist.

Who knows what happened. They'll never tell us the truth anyway. Maybe the guy was crazy or maybe not? Maybe the story is just to confuse? Either way he'll probably be sent to a black site and never heard from again.

TheMan13 said:

What a fucking joke! I've went out of my way to remain respectful with you regardless of your childish ignorance in this thread. You may want to revisit our back and forth here before you decide to get personal with me ...

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TheMan13 said:

First off, having followed Jihad and protected this country against it for decades, you and the others quoted lack a fundamental understanding of the problem. It is this clear gap in your understanding that allow you to put these square blocks in these round holes.

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So, this is what you call being respectful ?!?
Telling me because I don't share your opinion that somehow my thinking is flawed or skewed.
It sounds like we agree on a great number of things, but
maybe not on others.
That is no reason for you to be degrading or try to say I'm ignorant or childish.

Is that how you treat others who don't share your opinion ?!?

It's not my fault I have a father who has military background, and it's also not my fault that I've talked to people like Celerino Castillo who
have top secret clearance, and have told me that numerous black ops like this one exist.

I'm not getting personal with you.
I'm just expressing my opinion. I don't get personal behind the privacy of my comfy little HD monitor.
that's childish shit.
If you have a personal issue with me, come up and talk to me at the club.

Frogmann said:

The back story/conspiracy theory on the Army Major shrink guy at fort hood is he was in charge of evaluating soldiers as they came back from deployment. He informed his superior and base commander that there was a secret islamic faction inside the heads of some of the soldiers. The commander told him to never speak of this again or face psychiatric imprisonment. It was also said he told a journalist.

Who knows what happened. They'll never tell us the truth anyway. Maybe the guy was crazy or maybe not? Maybe the story is just to confuse? Either way he'll probably be sent to a black site and never heard from again.

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You may be missing something brother ...

Dab710 said:

So, this is what you call being respectful ?!?
Telling me because I don't share your opinion that somehow my thinking is flawed or skewed.
It sounds like we agree on a great number of things, but
maybe not on others.
That is no reason for you to be degrading or try to say I'm ignorant or childish.

Is that how you treat others who don't share your opinion ?!?

It's not my fault I have a father who has military background, and it's also not my fault that I've talked to people like Celerino Castillo who
have top secret clearance, and have told me that numerous black ops like this one exist.

I'm not getting personal with you.
I'm just expressing my opinion. I don't get personal behind the privacy of my comfy little HD monitor.
that's childish shit.
If you have a personal issue with me, come up and talk to me at the club.

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In this thread I have repeatedly debunked your "Truther" bullshit without getting into the weeds with you. I have specifically avoided your simple reference to these individuals and events. I've told you repeatedly that the ground work has been done as it relates to the motive and intent of the Jihad behind these heinous crimes against humanity. Jihad is a "tough fight" because it is a war, regardless of motive and intent, that completely lacks reason. Truther conspiracies lack not only reason, but any of the principles of reality, motive & intent. My suggestion to you, stop reading fiction and listening to fools, travel the world and get a clue.

[video=youtube;FkbVHZB6TqY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkbVHZB6TqY[/video]