Seed Predisposition

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
here's another, from the same article.....

"....Sex inheritance and sex chromosomes in plants are strikingly similar to those in animals........"
I hope you realize Fdd that I am not trying to prove anything as FACT. I am just giving information and debating.

I realize you guys are doing the same and im not trying to fight I really dont see why he has such a prpoblem with this.
 

fdd2blk

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I hope you realize Fdd that I am not trying to prove anything as FACT. I am just giving information and debating.

I realize you guys are doing the same and im not trying to fight I really dont see why he has such a prpoblem with this.

this wasn't a debate until you stepped in. it was a discussion. :-|
 

fdd2blk

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fuck this. another thread ruined by a small penis. i'm outta here. fuck this whiny BS.

i'll chat with skunk on yahoo.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
now you got me reading it....you gonna pay the 10 dollars and send it to me?


this is all really starting to confuse me. i have no idea what to think anymore.


I don't feel i have the need. This was done on males and females, but males were more easily turned... on hemp. Plus the plants had to be severely pruned. And the article is from around 1930's. I can find nothing up to date to substantiate this.

I've looked in a lot of places, and this was all i could find. Is it true? A lot of things have been published in the past that aren't true. He also did it while they were in flower. More males turned to females than females to males. If anything his study shows that the same environment affects the plants in the same way. So both plants would reverse sex, although if they did then you would end up with more fem's than males. Not the other way round.
 

SmokeUmPipe

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Not confused at all skunk..just putting opinions and going off whats been said, must you always be so judgemental...your right FDD there are too many X's and Y's to even keep track at this point...someone should do an organized report instead of fishing for this fact and that fact and then finding there not facts and so on...to me it seems(opinion here for those that take random things outta txt)the only thing that knows what marijuana is really doing other than whats been scentifically proven and whats known as common knowledge is the plant...if only there were a way....daydream...ne who either way i think itd be great to get to the bottom of this stuff...unfortunently it prolly wont happen til it becomes leagl everywhere and they actually start doing real tests
 

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
Not confused at all skunk..just putting opinions and going off whats been said, must you always be so judgemental...your right FDD there are too many X's and Y's to even keep track at this point...someone should do an organized report instead of fishing for this fact and that fact and then finding there not facts and so on...to me it seems(opinion here for those that take random things outta txt)the only thing that knows what marijuana is really doing other than whats been scentifically proven and whats known as common knowledge is the plant...if only there were a way....daydream...ne who either way i think itd be great to get to the bottom of this stuff...unfortunently it prolly wont happen til it becomes leagl everywhere and they actually start doing real tests
I agree with every word you just said 100% and have even said some of this earlier in the thread. :peace::peace::peace:
 

skunkushybrid

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Not confused at all skunk..just putting opinions and going off whats been said, must you always be so judgemental...your right FDD there are too many X's and Y's to even keep track at this point...someone should do an organized report instead of fishing for this fact and that fact and then finding there not facts and so on...<U>to me it seems(opinion here for those that take random things outta txt)the only thing that knows what marijuana is really doing other than whats been scentifically proven and whats known as common knowledge is the plant...if only there were a way....daydream...ne who either way i think itd be great to get to the bottom of this stuff...unfortunently it prolly wont happen til it becomes leagl everywhere and they actually start doing real tests


If this is how you feel, then stay out of the thread. You're not here to forward this discussion. You're here to stall it. I note, nothing I have said has been reasonably objected to. You offer none of this scientific proof... show the proof, or go away. Oh, and you were confused.
 

skunkushybrid

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I agree with every word you just said 100% and have even said some of this earlier in the thread. :peace::peace::peace:


And you are a complete waste of space. You come into my thread withou a clue what you want to say... only that you want to ruin the thread, and try to make me look foolish. All you've done is ruin this thread, and I've had enough.
 

jackinthebox

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Well its pretty obvious that people will believe anything they are told, so how about we all just start our own list of things?

Watering your plants while naked increases chances of females
Drinking a beer before mixing nutrients will increase chances of males
Watching tv at 1:30pm will increase chances of female unless its saved by the bell
Planting the seed with your mouth it will increase ur chances of having a female
Eating some of the soil that the plant is in, will increase chances of males
Riding a monogose bike will give you a hermie
 

mr j2

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i dont know if anybody asked this yet but.. what effect (if any) does using reverse (by dutchmaster) and a penetrator have on the number of males if applied right before flowering? or what would they cause a male plant to do? Ive heard of people succesfully using these to stop hermies with feminized seeds but i was just curious as to how they would effect regular seeds. Any ideas?
Heres a link to the product: Reverse by DutchMaster - 1 liter | Plant Nutrient Enhancers - General
 

SmokerE

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I'm of the belief in predisposition of sex. I don't know if it was said, my concern would be the environment of the parents during seed production and pollination. Since marijuana has the ability to change it's sex (modify, herm) due to environmental changes, why wouldn't the environmental factors during pollination have some sort of effect?
 

SmokerE

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And you are a complete waste of space. You come into my thread withou a clue what you want to say... only that you want to ruin the thread, and try to make me look foolish. All you've done is ruin this thread, and I've had enough.
Don't worry, he'll be busy taking gay pics of himself soon. Should keep him busy.
 

rkm

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I kinda have the opinion of both theories, little pieces of each to make a whole.

I dont know, but try looking for research universities have done on this topic, even contact them if you have too. Might take a look at University of Kentucky, they are among the best in the nation for agriculture schools. And you would not believe the land they own. Plus, Ky is one of the highest producing MJ states in the nation. I am pretty sure there has been some research done on this, maybe there has been a pot smoking agriculture student probably wondered this along the way sometime.
 

mockingbird131313

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More information is understood about animal species than about plant species. And it is generally assumed to be reasonable that there can be some similarity between plants and animals at some level.

So this predisposition of sex is a hot topic among zoologists and breeders. Here is what they found.

Some species, like alligators, can have more or less of a sex by altering incubation temptiture. Birds, in some cases, seem to follow the same pattern. However, some species seem not affected by outside influences.

I received that information from a well known bird veterinarian.

Since pollen has no subtle differences in appearance (i.e. male pollen or female pollen) I would speculate that environment has at least some part in determining the sex of the offspring. If you go back to the example of alligators, regardless of the environmental changes, you never get completely male or completely female, offspring from a clutch of eggs.

So, I believe, "feminized" is a generality, not an absolute.
 

SmokeUmPipe

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I think your funny skunk..what progress did this thread make anyway?? What was found out?? What was proven?? You can discuss hypotheticals all day for the sake of discussion but when you want to actually prove something and put it on paper we should be in our grow rooms right now instead of just wondering the possibilities...I noted that last little you were confused part, and I also think its funny bc really you fuel the fire you hate so much you make someone want to go after you...I've been polite, posting in an open thread thats all...I like the possibilities the RESEARCH for this subject can do and all other subjects you've brought up such as the trichome and root mass to plant mass and so on...love new info as long as its been proven
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
I'm of the belief in predisposition of sex. I don't know if it was said, my concern would be the environment of the parents during seed production and pollination. Since marijuana has the ability to change it's sex (modify, herm) due to environmental changes, why wouldn't the environmental factors during pollination have some sort of effect?


This is right where I'm at smoker'. The only way environment (to my mind) could play a part in the sex of a seed, is in the parents. They're the ones that know the environment.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
I think your funny skunk..what progress did this thread make anyway?? What was found out?? What was proven?? You can discuss hypotheticals all day for the sake of discussion but when you want to actually prove something and put it on paper we should be in our grow rooms right now instead of just wondering the possibilities...I noted that last little you were confused part, and I also think its funny bc really you fuel the fire you hate so much you make someone want to go after you...I've been polite, posting in an open thread thats all...I like the possibilities the RESEARCH for this subject can do and all other subjects you've brought up such as the trichome and root mass to plant mass and so on...love new info as long as its been proven


Still nothing to add? This thread is a search for the truth using reasoning and logic. Now, I realise that you might find this a little difficult to understand, but if you take a look at the header of this forum... it says advanced. Now remember back to your school days, were you ever advanced? We all know the answer to that, don't we.

I think some new rules need to be made for this section, at least in terms of being able to post in it. Either add to the discussion, or go away... silly, little man.
 
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