Rural America is the new "inner city"

DiogenesTheWiser

DiogenesTheWiser

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My work is my work and I put together my team, which includes several people in development. Development means fund raising. My organization, created in 2007 and finally got off the ground by 2010, is funded through donations from private organizations. The Ford Foundation, for example, is one of our lead donors.

Prison reform is about an industry these days with several 501(c)3 organizations fighting for prisoners' rights. My organization fights for their right to earn skills so as to reduce recidivism. And we have the numbers that demonstrate that our programs work. Since 2010, we've mentored nearly 10,000 prisoners in four states and not one has returned to incarceration as of yet.

Conservatives in America hate us for a couple of reasons. 1) they believe we're "coddling" criminals; 2) they erroneously believe that we're funded by taxpayers.

Liberals hate us for a few reasons as well, believing that the monies we provide to prisons helps their operations. No, that's not true at all. The money we give to prisons is so they upgrade their facilities to provide classrooms and work stations for our training programs. None of the money we give to prisons supports the warden or guards or the infrastructure of the prisons.

We are completely and totally opposed to the idea in America that if you're convicted of a crime, then you deserve to rot in a jail cell and compelled to do slave labor until you get out and can't find a job (because you're an ex-con) and have to resort to criminal behavior to make ends meet (and then you go back to prison).

Just thought I'd clarify this for the assholes who think I'm making a buck off of people in jail for victimless crimes. My salary is much less than what it was when I was a poli sci prof at American U. I created this org because I want to make a difference!
 
dagwood45431

dagwood45431

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DiogenesTheWiser said:
My work is my work and I put together my team, which includes several people in development. Development means fund raising. My organization, created in 2007 and finally got off the ground by 2010, is funded through donations from private organizations. The Ford Foundation, for example, is one of our lead donors.

Prison reform is about an industry these days with several 501(c)3 organizations fighting for prisoners' rights. My organization fights for their right to earn skills so as to reduce recidivism. And we have the numbers that demonstrate that our programs work. Since 2010, we've mentored nearly 10,000 prisoners in four states and not one has returned to incarceration as of yet.

Conservatives in America hate us for a couple of reasons. 1) they believe we're "coddling" criminals; 2) they erroneously believe that we're funded by taxpayers.

Liberals hate us for a few reasons as well, believing that the monies we provide to prisons helps their operations. No, that's not true at all. The money we give to prisons is so they upgrade their facilities to provide classrooms and work stations for our training programs. None of the money we give to prisons supports the warden or guards or the infrastructure of the prisons.

We are completely and totally opposed to the idea in America that if you're convicted of a crime, then you deserve to rot in a jail cell and compelled to do slave labor until you get out and can't find a job (because you're an ex-con) and have to resort to criminal behavior to make ends meet (and then you go back to prison).

Just thought I'd clarify this for the assholes who think I'm making a buck off of people in jail for victimless crimes. My salary is much less than what it was when I was a poli sci prof at American U. I created this org because I want to make a difference!
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Thank you. You're doing good work.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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DiogenesTheWiser said:
My work is my work and I put together my team, which includes several people in development. Development means fund raising. My organization, created in 2007 and finally got off the ground by 2010, is funded through donations from private organizations. The Ford Foundation, for example, is one of our lead donors.

Prison reform is about an industry these days with several 501(c)3 organizations fighting for prisoners' rights. My organization fights for their right to earn skills so as to reduce recidivism. And we have the numbers that demonstrate that our programs work. Since 2010, we've mentored nearly 10,000 prisoners in four states and not one has returned to incarceration as of yet.

Conservatives in America hate us for a couple of reasons. 1) they believe we're "coddling" criminals; 2) they erroneously believe that we're funded by taxpayers.

Liberals hate us for a few reasons as well, believing that the monies we provide to prisons helps their operations. No, that's not true at all. The money we give to prisons is so they upgrade their facilities to provide classrooms and work stations for our training programs. None of the money we give to prisons supports the warden or guards or the infrastructure of the prisons.

We are completely and totally opposed to the idea in America that if you're convicted of a crime, then you deserve to rot in a jail cell and compelled to do slave labor until you get out and can't find a job (because you're an ex-con) and have to resort to criminal behavior to make ends meet (and then you go back to prison).

Just thought I'd clarify this for the assholes who think I'm making a buck off of people in jail for victimless crimes. My salary is much less than what it was when I was a poli sci prof at American U. I created this org because I want to make a difference!
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Not everyone convicted of a felony loses the right to vote forever. It's a state by state thing.

In fact, I believe that any felon who has completed their sentence must be enfranchised, to do otherwise is unconstitutional.

I'd very much like to hear your thoughts on the matter.
 
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fdd2blk

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ttystikk said:
Yet the notion that no felon ever regains their suffrage is pervasive and nationwide.
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I know someone who had a felony charge, on the state level, who just regained his gun rights. You can regain them on a federal level as well but it's not as easy. It can be done though. It is kind of amazing at all the misconceptions that surround people with felonies.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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fdd2blk said:
I know someone who had a felony charge, on the state level, who just regained his gun rights. You can regain them on a federal level as well but it's not as easy. It can be done though. It is kind of amazing at all the misconceptions that surround people with felonies.
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If spreading rumors is enough to suppress their vote, then why go further?
 
DiogenesTheWiser

DiogenesTheWiser

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ttystikk said:
Not everyone convicted of a felony loses the right to vote forever. It's a state by state thing.

In fact, I believe that any felon who has completed their sentence must be enfranchised, to do otherwise is unconstitutional.

I'd very much like to hear your thoughts on the matter.
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When did I address felons' voting rights or lack thereof?

Of course, I believe that once somebody has paid their debt to society, then they should get all of their rights back.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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DiogenesTheWiser said:
When did I address felons' voting rights or lack thereof?

Of course, I believe that once somebody has paid their debt to society, then they should get all of their rights back.
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I asked for your thoughts because you work with felons in prison and presumably as they leave. Therefore it seemed to me that if anyone has insight into the matter, you would.

I appreciate your perspective, and I share your viewpoint on this.
 
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