Question about cloning
- Thread starter kcbudluvr
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nope..some keep mothers and others clone clones..depends on your preference and space limitations.
DirtyJerzey
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I dont know from personal experience. But ive heard when you clone clones of clones. And have great grandfather clones, etc. Your genetics will decrease over each cloning. Not sure how true it is, but it sounds like it could be true. Just keep that in mind when your cloning.
MariJesus
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How does that even sound relatively true? You understand that a clone, is an exact genetic copy of something else? How is it possible that by taking a piece of something, that has the same genetic code, and makeup, can miraculously be changed by continuing to reproduce the SAME genetic line.....
To answer the original post, YES, you can continue to clone clones, and NO it will not "decrease your genetics" however, clones are not as great as a plant grown from seed. Where you do have the exact same genetics in the plant, clones don't make as solid of a root-ball as a seeded plant does, due to its unnatural way of developing it's roots. Not to say that clones are worse than seeded plants, they just take longer to develop due to the nature of how the root system was developed.
tusseltussel
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I clone clones Ive had clones that were 8 generations in with no problem, that's as far as I have gone but I hear of breeders that have decade old clones that they have cloned probably a hundred times
Do it
Do it
chuck estevez
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that's exactly how I roll, been doing it for years.
tusseltussel
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If you are coning a sick plant Maybe but no healthy clones produce healthy clones
chuck estevez
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in your first paragraph you say the right thing, then totally contradict yourself in the second. a clone is an exact copy. HOW COULD IT BE DIFFERENT IN ANY WAY???
tusseltussel
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I have never had this problem m roots grow fantastically. They burst forth with growth often times with more vigorous growth although that could be attributed to other environmental factors I have not done a study its just an observation
DirtyJerzey
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Never said it was true... Just said thats what ive read on here. Ive only cloned once so far. And now being corrected, will be cloning this clone when the time comes.
MariJesus
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Just because the genetics are the same doesn't mean that it was created the same way. A clone doesn't produce a "true" root system. This doesn't mean that the plant "loses or decreases genetics". So no this does not contradict anything I have stated at all.
chuck estevez
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It doesn"t??? Please explain how the plant grows without a TRUE root system. I think you're just making shit up now.
chuck estevez
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PLEASE tell us how a root from a seed plant is different from a root on a cloned plant.
The first root that comes from a plant is called the radicle. The four major functions of roots are 1) absorption of water and inorganic nutrients, 2) anchoring of the plant body to the ground, and supporting it, 3) storage of food and nutrients, 4) vegetative reproduction. In response to the concentration of nutrients, roots also synthesise cytokinin, which acts as a signal as to how fast the shoots can grow. Roots often function in storage of food and nutrients. The roots of most vascular plant species enter into symbiosis with certain fungi to form mycorrhizae, and a large range of other organisms including bacteria also closely associate with roots.
The first root that comes from a plant is called the radicle. The four major functions of roots are 1) absorption of water and inorganic nutrients, 2) anchoring of the plant body to the ground, and supporting it, 3) storage of food and nutrients, 4) vegetative reproduction. In response to the concentration of nutrients, roots also synthesise cytokinin, which acts as a signal as to how fast the shoots can grow. Roots often function in storage of food and nutrients. The roots of most vascular plant species enter into symbiosis with certain fungi to form mycorrhizae, and a large range of other organisms including bacteria also closely associate with roots.
chuck estevez
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tusseltussel
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There is no need for this all it accomplishes is making you look like a tool, Maybe that shit flies on UncleBens threads. I' sure he would be proud of you.
tusseltussel
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Happy to help any time
Glad that you were able to learn something. be careful not everything on the internet is true, especially here
MariJesus
Active Member
When a plant reproduces from seed, it creates what is called a tap root, with specific enzymes for root production ONLY found in the seed pod that the plant originally came from. Cloning is not a natural process. you aren't going to go out in the wild and find a bunch of cuttings, that MAGICALLY fell into the ground JUST right and produced its roots. Clones grow slower than a F1 hybrid will because of the lost of its hybrid vigor. This also means a F1 can grow about 25% bigger than a clone. You have to start with a good mother because all the characteristics of the mother, the clones will have the same. Clones are less disease and pest resistant because of the trauma a clone has to undergo to become a plant. The plant WILL NOT produce roots if the Cambium layer is not exposed. When the cambium produces roots in a cutting, it does it as a last resort effort to survive, putting the cutting through loads and loads of stress, which ultimately means the clone will never be as great as the mother in vigor and size, but will still produce the same genetic line.
Before you go around talking shit to people about things you think you know. Educate yourself first.
chuck estevez
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thanks for the forum lessons. sorry you're so sensitive, I'll tip toe around you now.
chuck estevez
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you aren't going to go out in the wild and find 1000 watt grow lights either. Sorry, but this doesn't explain HOW a clone root is different from a seed root. a root is a root.