Over thinking at its finest?

John marks

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So I'm coming up to my first harvest and obviously putting a lot of thought into drying/curing,which leads to my question leaf on leaf of...when I chop er down I'm. Not to worried about look its just for me so I'm more worried about taste and colour a little bit to I guess. so does taking the leaf of right after chopping or leaving it on change much,what about curing with the leaves on wouldn't that just make your hash smell and taste better as well...tips and pointers of what y'all do will help me sleep tonight thanks
 
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Alienwidow

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So I'm coming up to my first harvest and obviously putting a lot of thought into drying/curing,which leads to my question leaf on leaf of...when I chop er down I'm. Not to worried about look its just for me so I'm more worried about taste and colour a little bit to I guess. so does taking the leaf of right after chopping or leaving it on change much,what about curing with the leaves on wouldn't that just make your hash smell and taste better as well...tips and pointers of what y'all do will help me sleep tonight thanks
I think it makes a big difference. I like to just cut the plant down and hang it upside down to dry. About five days later, or a bit longer, manicure the buds. I find hangin the whole plant Gives you the best smell. I also use molasses for the last two weeks before cutting, might want to giver a try one day and see what you think.
 

John marks

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I think it makes a big difference. I like to just cut the plant down and hang it upside down to dry. About five days later, or a bit longer, manicure the buds. I find hangin the whole plant Gives you the best smell. I also use molasses for the last two weeks before cutting, might want to giver a try one day and see what you think.
What about your jars,how much room do I leave?are the buds packed in tight?
 

John marks

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I think it makes a big difference. I like to just cut the plant down and hang it upside down to dry. About five days later, or a bit longer, manicure the buds. I find hangin the whole plant Gives you the best smell. I also use molasses for the last two weeks before cutting, might want to giver a try one day and see what you think.
And its my first crop Im not feeling confident I wouldn't get mold in the drying process if I leave the plant in tack
 

John marks

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Maybe what I'll do is manicure half wet and do the other half dry and also try a couple different ways of curing I guess
 

John marks

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I don't have room to hang my buds, so I chop and wet manicure and dry on a net rack in my flower tent, with the carbon filter on. I know its not ideal, but ain't go no other option. After about 5 days I start curing.
I feel I'll be doing the same thing,what is your opinion ,is the bud more sweet or greeny with the leaf of before dry
 

John marks

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I hear some say the opposite and I know for my strain that the buds are very fruity and the leaf is very well...greeny so I'll be definitely removing the leaf wet
 

John marks

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I think it makes a big difference. I like to just cut the plant down and hang it upside down to dry. About five days later, or a bit longer, manicure the buds. I find hangin the whole plant Gives you the best smell. I also use molasses for the last two weeks before cutting, might want to giver a try one day and see what you think.
My biggest thing when it comes to the herb is nice clean burning dope,now would molasses in the last two weeks not make the plant accumulate sugars in the buds which would support resin glands maybe or something resiny I'm sure..but would the buds not burn a little harsh is there no negative effects to the molasses?
 

John marks

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I think it makes a big difference. I like to just cut the plant down and hang it upside down to dry. About five days later, or a bit longer, manicure the buds. I find hangin the whole plant Gives you the best smell. I also use molasses for the last two weeks before cutting, might want to giver a try one day and see what you think.
Plus I'm using technafloras recipe for success and it has a pre flush with it for taste and smell, pushes the plant to create essential oils...calls for 2.5ml of magical and 40ml of sugar daddy,in the last week before flushong.have you used this by any chance ...molasses or chemical preflush?
 

coreywebster

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Hey John,
Its each to his own really. I do as Kiwipaulie does except not in my flower room. My choice is for easiness though. I find trimming leaf as the buds come from the plant is easier because the leaves are still alive. I pull downward on the leafs big enough and they make a nice clean snap off, I then trim the small sugar leaf into a tray. Its easier to trim than when they have been half dried and wilted or shrivelled. That does not mean its the correct way and its not the traditional way. But I run a perpetual system so I'm certainly not going to hang them in my flower tent. I also think the drying is more even without any extra leaf. My weed tastes great and clean. But everyone has opinions on what is best. I am unsure of the science so hopefully someone will chime in with that part.

I think you should try both ways and then you can decide which tastes sweeter or cleaner! I would be interested to hear your results.
Take it easy!
 
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Olive Drab Green

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So I'm coming up to my first harvest and obviously putting a lot of thought into drying/curing,which leads to my question leaf on leaf of...when I chop er down I'm. Not to worried about look its just for me so I'm more worried about taste and colour a little bit to I guess. so does taking the leaf of right after chopping or leaving it on change much,what about curing with the leaves on wouldn't that just make your hash smell and taste better as well...tips and pointers of what y'all do will help me sleep tonight thanks
Remove the sugar leaves and use them for Quiso, I'd say. It'll dry faster and it won't retain moisture to rot the buds. Dry for 5 days, cure for 1 or 2 days, repeat dry for a day and a half, then jar it again and it should at least have a smokable texture and part of its flavor and scent.
 

John marks

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Remove the sugar leaves and use them for Quiso, I'd say. It'll dry faster and it won't retain moisture to rot the buds. Dry for 5 days, cure for 1 or 2 days, repeat dry for a day and a half, then jar it again and it should at least have a smokable texture and part of its flavor and scent.
Wow that's a pretty short curing process ,and the gf claimed my leaf for eatables lol,thanks though something tells me I'll be using this method me first time around
 

Alienwidow

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Imo its just easier to trim as much when wet. It's really the part of growing I fucken hate. Hours of trimming sucks
Its true, wet trimming is easier. But the smell is better from a dry trim. Ive trimmed wet like every way you can imagine, with every style of bud trimmer you can think of including bonsai. And i think the best smell comes from a dry trim. I think its because with all the fan leaves wrapping around the plant, that it takes longer to dry. Longer dry equals a better end product.
 

Alienwidow

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My biggest thing when it comes to the herb is nice clean burning dope,now would molasses in the last two weeks not make the plant accumulate sugars in the buds which would support resin glands maybe or something resiny I'm sure..but would the buds not burn a little harsh is there no negative effects to the molasses?
People have been using molasses for decades. The sugars are converted to usable carbohydrates by the plants root zone. Theres a plethora of what companies call "finnishers" out there and most of them have molasses as the main ingredient, or i think cane sugar. Either way the carbs are good for the plant. They feed the benificial bacteria in the rootzone responsible for converting fertilizer into useable food for the plant. Its more important in organic farming where the organic food (like guano/worm castings/basiclly poops) arent in usable forms for the plant to consume so the soil web needs to break it down to usable nutrients. Chemical fertilizer which is what i prefer, is already in a digestable form for the plant. No real need to convert it in the root zone. So it can burn your plants faster if you over do it, but the uptake and results are also much faster when used correctly. Organic or inorganic farming can benifit from molasses though. If you want to read up on something interesting, check out high brix growing. Its intentionally increasing the sugars in the plant to very high levels. Its an interesting read.
 
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