Gerber101
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Hello! New Grower here. I'm looking to make a 4 plant Scrog in a 4x4. Looking for some advice on how to go from here to a 4 plant scrog filling my 4x4. Questions below.
My Setup:
Space - 4x4 Tent
Medium - Coco w/perlite (30%)
Vent - 6 Inch inline fan, carbon filter
Pots - 4 Pots - Currently 3 gal, will go up to 7 gal
Strains - OG kush x 2, Christmas Cookies, Northern Lights
Lights: 2 LEDs - Will probably add 4 COB kit before flower
https://platinumgrowlights.com/products/p450
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011NXDOBY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Images - I've added 6 images.
-Tent setup, 4 plants and LED lights
-New Clones
-4 of OG kush that I've had home for 12 days. I'd like to use this plant to determine how to best set up for a scrog. I think I can repeat any advice on my other 3 to get them all set up correctly
Clones from Dispensary - I bought my 4 clones from my local dispensary. I just picked strains that I like, and clones that looked the best.
Clones - Where to buy - I'm in Los Angeles. I've seen a couple links to places to purchase good genetic clones. Does anyone here suggest that I try out a particular one?
Topping for scrog - As a first time grower I'm just learning about these methods (top, super, monster etc). I got a little ahead of myself and went ahead and topped 3 of my 4 plants. You can see the new tops in the screen shots for the OG Kush. I may have topped them too high, and too early. It was fun to try, and its very exciting to see the new growth. Hopefully I didn't mess them up.
I read through topping posts and some mentioned to do this for a scrog setup: Let a plant veg for 3-4 weeks, then top it directly above the 2nd node. These threads also got into talking about 1,2, or 4 primary colas
Issues I've run into
Heat - For the first 8 days I was hitting temps in the 90s. Generally for a few hours in the middle of the day. I've since added AC, so heat is no longer an issue. However I wonder if having that heat for the first week is going to make the plants preform less. My stems seem to have a lot of red/purple in them.
Red/Purple Stems - I've read this is may be a cal mag issue? I've done 2 waters with light nutes so far, added some cal mag, but there is still red/purple present. Not sure if this was related to the heat
CoCo holding water - I'm conscious about not over watering. I'm watering by feel/weight. After moving my clones into 3 gal pots, I'm surprised about how slow they are drying out, the coco seems to hold a lot of water for longer that I would have expected. I've gone 3 days between waterings, plants have not had the droopy under water look yet.
How old my clones were - As a novice I found it hard to determine how old my clones were, and if I was to start an actual veg cycle yet. When you don't know whats what, and you see instructions saying things like 'on day 7 you should blah', it seemed very important to know precisely how many days old they were, I freaked out a bit.
I brought home 4 clones, in rockwool plug containers filled with sugar cube sized rockwool also. Upon inspection, all clones had roots showing out the bottom of the plug, so I transported them to solo cups right away. Since they were transferred to 3 gal pots. Roots looked good when removing from solo cups.
Weak initial light - I didn't really have the proper lighting when I set up. The clones were under 4 CFLs for 3 days, then I added a 300w LED to them. Were like that for 12 days. Just added the Platinum 450 to that at day 12. Again, as with heat, wondering of this weak lighting may gimp the potential of the plants.
Questions:
For a scrog setup how should I top my plants?
Assuming I get the first top correct, how and when do I perform a 2nd topping on the same plant? How do I continue topping from there?
How will I know when to stop topping, or when to enter Flower based on my space?
Is it possible that problems in the first week or two (heat, weak light, bad clones?) will gimp my plants? Its early enough that if I've already made large errors that may affect the outcome, I wouldn't be against starting over.
I'm doing all of this to become a competent grower, I know it won't happen overnight. My expectation is to eventually have the ability to grow top shelf meds - Indica, Staiva and Hybrids. I'm in this for the learning as well as the outcome. If anyone has any additional advice on how to get as much knowledge out of this first grow as possible, please pass it on.
I chose the scrog method because it seemed to make sense for me, I don't want to have to manage a lot of different pots, and I'd like to learn about manipulating plants/stressing/ etc as much as possible. Does this sound like a good plan for me? Up for any suggestions.
Thank You
Gerber
My Setup:
Space - 4x4 Tent
Medium - Coco w/perlite (30%)
Vent - 6 Inch inline fan, carbon filter
Pots - 4 Pots - Currently 3 gal, will go up to 7 gal
Strains - OG kush x 2, Christmas Cookies, Northern Lights
Lights: 2 LEDs - Will probably add 4 COB kit before flower
https://platinumgrowlights.com/products/p450
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011NXDOBY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Images - I've added 6 images.
-Tent setup, 4 plants and LED lights
-New Clones
-4 of OG kush that I've had home for 12 days. I'd like to use this plant to determine how to best set up for a scrog. I think I can repeat any advice on my other 3 to get them all set up correctly
Clones from Dispensary - I bought my 4 clones from my local dispensary. I just picked strains that I like, and clones that looked the best.
Clones - Where to buy - I'm in Los Angeles. I've seen a couple links to places to purchase good genetic clones. Does anyone here suggest that I try out a particular one?
Topping for scrog - As a first time grower I'm just learning about these methods (top, super, monster etc). I got a little ahead of myself and went ahead and topped 3 of my 4 plants. You can see the new tops in the screen shots for the OG Kush. I may have topped them too high, and too early. It was fun to try, and its very exciting to see the new growth. Hopefully I didn't mess them up.
I read through topping posts and some mentioned to do this for a scrog setup: Let a plant veg for 3-4 weeks, then top it directly above the 2nd node. These threads also got into talking about 1,2, or 4 primary colas
Issues I've run into
Heat - For the first 8 days I was hitting temps in the 90s. Generally for a few hours in the middle of the day. I've since added AC, so heat is no longer an issue. However I wonder if having that heat for the first week is going to make the plants preform less. My stems seem to have a lot of red/purple in them.
Red/Purple Stems - I've read this is may be a cal mag issue? I've done 2 waters with light nutes so far, added some cal mag, but there is still red/purple present. Not sure if this was related to the heat
CoCo holding water - I'm conscious about not over watering. I'm watering by feel/weight. After moving my clones into 3 gal pots, I'm surprised about how slow they are drying out, the coco seems to hold a lot of water for longer that I would have expected. I've gone 3 days between waterings, plants have not had the droopy under water look yet.
How old my clones were - As a novice I found it hard to determine how old my clones were, and if I was to start an actual veg cycle yet. When you don't know whats what, and you see instructions saying things like 'on day 7 you should blah', it seemed very important to know precisely how many days old they were, I freaked out a bit.
I brought home 4 clones, in rockwool plug containers filled with sugar cube sized rockwool also. Upon inspection, all clones had roots showing out the bottom of the plug, so I transported them to solo cups right away. Since they were transferred to 3 gal pots. Roots looked good when removing from solo cups.
Weak initial light - I didn't really have the proper lighting when I set up. The clones were under 4 CFLs for 3 days, then I added a 300w LED to them. Were like that for 12 days. Just added the Platinum 450 to that at day 12. Again, as with heat, wondering of this weak lighting may gimp the potential of the plants.
Questions:
For a scrog setup how should I top my plants?
Assuming I get the first top correct, how and when do I perform a 2nd topping on the same plant? How do I continue topping from there?
How will I know when to stop topping, or when to enter Flower based on my space?
Is it possible that problems in the first week or two (heat, weak light, bad clones?) will gimp my plants? Its early enough that if I've already made large errors that may affect the outcome, I wouldn't be against starting over.
I'm doing all of this to become a competent grower, I know it won't happen overnight. My expectation is to eventually have the ability to grow top shelf meds - Indica, Staiva and Hybrids. I'm in this for the learning as well as the outcome. If anyone has any additional advice on how to get as much knowledge out of this first grow as possible, please pass it on.
I chose the scrog method because it seemed to make sense for me, I don't want to have to manage a lot of different pots, and I'd like to learn about manipulating plants/stressing/ etc as much as possible. Does this sound like a good plan for me? Up for any suggestions.
Thank You
Gerber
