Master Pack vs. Jack's

Michael Huntherz

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I am considering a side-by-side comparison grow as an experiment, to see if there really is any benefit to the using the giant range of products fertilizer companies offer.

I received an Aurora Master Pack as a gift, it has what I would consider to be an outrageous number of products. There are a couple of products in there that are probably useful beyond basic fertilizer, and I am trying to formulate a fair comparison between a simple fertilizer regimen based on Jack's 20-20-20 and the exceedingly complex system suggested by Aurora Products.

I plan to use Roots Organics 707 mix, so this will actually be optimized for the Aurora nutrients by default, their fertilizers and soil are probably designed to work well together.

I would love some input on this idea.

I think the OregonismXL mycorhizae product really will have some benefit, so I plan on top dressing all plants with it per Aurora's instructions.

With that single caveat my current plan is;
Both groups will get the appropriate amount of water for each individual plant.

Group A will get the full Aurora schedule of nutrients.

Group B will get a reasonable dosage of Jack's All Purpose 20-20-20, approximately every other watering.

Thoughts, questions, concerns?
 
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Michael Huntherz

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I really can't afford to fuck up my grow, so if either group suffers I will take steps to correct it, and that group will lose a few notional "points" in the contest.

Also, I have an RO machine, I may or may not use it. Not sure what I want to do with that. I am concerned the Jack's may not have all the micronutrients needed, and tap water might be a good idea, but I also don't want to have fuck with the pH too hard. Not sure.

Maybe Jack's with tap water, and no pH adjustment
vs
Master Pack with RO, and pH carefully adjusted?
 
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Michael Huntherz

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I thought it was an interesting idea, am I alone? (Bump)

I looked into Jacks all purpose, it has everything, decided to use RO on both groups, pH to normal soil ranges
 

Dr. Who

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Not really going to be fair is it?

You have to do a dial in run on what you don't already know.

THEN, after you have adjusted the Aurora (or what ever one you don't know how to use per the strain) to the strains needs. You do a "side by side"..

See what I mean?

I'll tell you something now.

I've been running some Botanicare KIND and only using the Bloom (0-0-6) and the Base (4-0-0).....In even my first run, It nailed it! I do not feed in veg, only up pot to fresh 30 day soil.
10 days before I flip. I up pot to the final pot, lightly re-amended used soil mixed 2:1 with fresh base (30 day) soil.
That runs 8-10 days and in the bloom room it goes.

I run the KIND exactly like it says (some strains require a bit less of one or the other part) In it's charting. From day 1 of bloom.
I add 10 ml of my home made "Sweet Raw" and 10 ml of my home made 6% K2SO4 (potassium sulfate) solution, to each gallon of feed. I stop the Mg and K sulfate 2 - 3 weeks before the harvest, so as not to repress any THC development (K and Mg will do that).
Once a week I add 5 ml of Maxicrop Seaweed (Kelp extract) for the micro's and fulvic/humic's (soil was built and re-amended with FUL HUMIX by Bio Ag at the wet down before the cook)
I water (RO) everyday at lights on a metered amount of water that will carry the plant to the next day at the same time.

If you do this, you will need to up the pH of the solution because, the KIND drops it hard... It drops it so low that in time, it will begin to lower the soils pH to the point of harm. I do not use an "UP" product that contains any Si.

This simple formula just kills it! Too fucking easy! Monster results....
I do mainly Organic home built water only soils. 3 different bloom soils for differing strains. I do a base soil (30 days of feeding) and a full on veg soil.... This kills almost exactly the same as the Synthetic runs, just a tic smaller yields and that's by grams, not zips.

What's my point?

If your good at what you do. Less is more and you can make anything "less" work to your advantage. Keep It Simple Stupid is correct!

Now then, go ahead and ask what my supplements "do" for me if you like.

Good luck and I'll watch the side by side when you get around to an even match up, knowledge wise...(how to use the products for the strains selected, effectively or "dialed in"...)
 

Michael Huntherz

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I agree with your input Doc, some of which I had considered, some of which I had not. My usual system uses A one part hydro feed 4-1-4, MKP, MgSO4, and a touch of CalMag, pretty simple. I may keep it that way.
 
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