JSB99
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If I don't get to build this, then that might be as close as I getYou know if you made a game.....with growing in it....never know..
That'd be pretty cool!
JB's New Growroom with Graphics
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That'd be pretty cool!
Uberknot
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If I don't get to build this, then that might be as close as I get
That'd be pretty cool!
Every so many grows you can have the dreaded mite attack
over and under watering...If set up right it would be a blast.
JSB99
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How about when the mites attack it turns into a first person shooter, shooting bug spray at themEvery so many grows you can have the dreaded mite attack
If set up right it would be a blast.
WeedFreak78
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So the bench will be 2 independent tops?The bench top is split at about 60/40, but I might stiffen up the frame. I'll see how it looks once I have it rendered.
ttystikk
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Right, you could even take the place of a beneficial bug and go hunting!How about when the mites attack it turns into a first person shooter, shooting bug spray at them
JSB99
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Yes. Just to make it a little more sturdy. It's 82" long and I'm going to try and keep it fairly light. I think raising the entire top would cause a lot of flexing. But I might change that when I remove the legs and add the cables.
WeedFreak78
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I'm was thinking more for access to the res, if its going under there, while also having a work surface.
JSB99
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Yep, that's what it's for. I'm determined to make everything easily accessible
JSB99
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IKR
Watch, I'll paint a beautiful picture and the actual will look like it was built with random junkyard parts LOL
Actually, I go through a lot of effort hiding wires. My 70" led and surround have no visible wires. I've cut open and patched so many of my walls, running power or AV cables for my setup. My home theater's the same. I like it "clean clean"
So this will probably turn out close to the renderings. It's going to take me a little longer because I am going to be painting the pipes and COB frame like in the pictures. This is going to take up a bedroom in my house, so I want to make it look professional and nice. But that's just me and my approach. When it was in my back closet, it was quite different. That looked like a permanent work in progress LOL
JSB99
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I also had my home studio and I would spend hours, and even days, patching cords and hiding them.IKR
Watch, I'll paint a beautiful picture and the actual will look like it was built with random junkyard parts LOL
Actually, I go through a lot of effort hiding wires. My 70" led and surround have no visible wires. I've cut open and patched so many of my walls, running power or AV cables for my setups. My home theater's the same. I like it "clean"
JSB99
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I finished moving the chiller and pumps under the bench, as well as using cables to suspend the bench top. The bench is still split 60/40 (40 being above the chiller), though it's difficult to see the split in the images. I don't know if the tops are going to be rigid enough to where they don't flex much, or be able to hold some weight. I'm thinking 50 lbs each is what I'd be shooting for. One idea that just came to mind is to lag in 4 large brackets just below the bench top to support it more, but still leave room to easily get to everything under the bench.
BRACKET
You can see the whole collection HERE
The blue valves/pipes going into the reservoir consist of a float valve feed and a fast feed. I'm rearranging the pipes so that both the feeds are towards the top. The feed will be coming directly from the bathroom's cold water line. I'm also going to have a hose attached with a sprayer for cleaning.
The air line and power cords are now tucked behind the top green pipe.
The vacuum hose to suck up water from a disaster or drain the remaining water in the buckets or reservoir.
Air line and cords
Some wiring
BRACKET
You can see the whole collection HERE
The blue valves/pipes going into the reservoir consist of a float valve feed and a fast feed. I'm rearranging the pipes so that both the feeds are towards the top. The feed will be coming directly from the bathroom's cold water line. I'm also going to have a hose attached with a sprayer for cleaning.
The air line and power cords are now tucked behind the top green pipe.
The vacuum hose to suck up water from a disaster or drain the remaining water in the buckets or reservoir.
Air line and cords
Some wiring
JSB99
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It's been a little while since I posted, but I got a lot figured out and I think I'm just about done.
What I've been working on is the 2x4x9 closet that will house the mothers and provide a space for clones.
The room in its entirety with the closet on the left (obviously)
Got all the equipment laid out. The closet extends past the wall about 6 inches, which will be a real convenient place to pass the wires through.
The smaller wires are kind of difficult to see. I might render an extra large version of this and post it
I illuminated the timers, just for fun. Room with the lights off:
The space below is 24" high, which should be plenty of room. The bucket is to water the mothers on a timer. There will be a small water pump in there. It probably won't be exactly like this since it would prove difficult to add and remove the bucket with the pipes.
I probably don't need air going into the reservoir (bucket), but it does circulate the water when adjusting pH levels or adding nutrients
I found what I'm hoping is a leak-proof tote to use for my cloner (link below). Above the cloner I'm going to have 2x700mA COB's on a dimmer.
TOTE
The heatsink is 40" long and 5.886" wide. I don't know if I'll paint it or not. I'd have to tape the spots where the COB's would be mounted so there's good contact. I'm not even sure if the paint would effect the dissipation of heat.
Here's a shot of the 4" can-fan I'll be using for the closet. I haven't drawn it out yet, but the fan will exhaust the air through a register above the closet door. I'll probabaly also mount a small register in the door to provide air.
Top shot of the Bonsai Mums
It's hard to see the driplines because they're black. I've changed them to blue to stand out more and will probably repost a couple of these
I've got an overflow valve here just in case they mistakenly get over-watered.
What I've been working on is the 2x4x9 closet that will house the mothers and provide a space for clones.
The room in its entirety with the closet on the left (obviously)
Got all the equipment laid out. The closet extends past the wall about 6 inches, which will be a real convenient place to pass the wires through.
The smaller wires are kind of difficult to see. I might render an extra large version of this and post it
I illuminated the timers, just for fun. Room with the lights off:
The space below is 24" high, which should be plenty of room. The bucket is to water the mothers on a timer. There will be a small water pump in there. It probably won't be exactly like this since it would prove difficult to add and remove the bucket with the pipes.
I probably don't need air going into the reservoir (bucket), but it does circulate the water when adjusting pH levels or adding nutrients
I found what I'm hoping is a leak-proof tote to use for my cloner (link below). Above the cloner I'm going to have 2x700mA COB's on a dimmer.
TOTE
The heatsink is 40" long and 5.886" wide. I don't know if I'll paint it or not. I'd have to tape the spots where the COB's would be mounted so there's good contact. I'm not even sure if the paint would effect the dissipation of heat.
Here's a shot of the 4" can-fan I'll be using for the closet. I haven't drawn it out yet, but the fan will exhaust the air through a register above the closet door. I'll probabaly also mount a small register in the door to provide air.
Top shot of the Bonsai Mums
It's hard to see the driplines because they're black. I've changed them to blue to stand out more and will probably repost a couple of these
I've got an overflow valve here just in case they mistakenly get over-watered.
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JSB99
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Here's what it'll look like with the vents and the 4" exhaust fan for the closet.
I'm going to have vents on both sides of the door to help with light control. It's not crucial that light escapes, but I think it would be an eyesore with a bunch of light shining through. The weird colors on the vent are the reflections from the intake fan label.
This is the backside of the closet.
I didn't do anything with the inside of the fan
There's going to be a board mounted on the wall with a hole for the fan's exhaust to blow through. I'll leave enough of a gap to where the fan isn't touching the wood. That'd cause noise.
I'm going to have vents on both sides of the door to help with light control. It's not crucial that light escapes, but I think it would be an eyesore with a bunch of light shining through. The weird colors on the vent are the reflections from the intake fan label.
This is the backside of the closet.
I didn't do anything with the inside of the fan
There's going to be a board mounted on the wall with a hole for the fan's exhaust to blow through. I'll leave enough of a gap to where the fan isn't touching the wood. That'd cause noise.
PetFlora
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You need to gt one of these Equi-Core 1800. Here's where I listen to well recorded musicI also had my home studio and I would spend hours, and even days, patching cords and hiding them.
PetFlora
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Yes, a simple F & D for the win. Since I have a mosquito problem I have to put lids on my totes
I use 3" net pots with a coco insert to start, then transfer o f&d with large netpot partially filled with stones for roots to anchor. easy to remove and clean when harvested, 100% recyclable, and no hydroton mess
Inside the cooler/tote are 2 pumps, one for f & d, the other n a deep cycle timer for oxygenating the nutes
hth
I use 3" net pots with a coco insert to start, then transfer o f&d with large netpot partially filled with stones for roots to anchor. easy to remove and clean when harvested, 100% recyclable, and no hydroton mess
Inside the cooler/tote are 2 pumps, one for f & d, the other n a deep cycle timer for oxygenating the nutes
hth
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OldMedUser
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So how's the build going?
Very interesting read but very over-engineered IMHO. One tall RubberMaid tub with four plants in that size grow space would do a great job and yield just as much without all the plumbing etc that you envision for what really is a simple concept.
Don't get me wrong here. I'm not dissing your concept. It looks great and after reading all 11 pages it's obvious that you've put a lot of thought into it all and really flexed your CAD muscles to good ends.
I'm adding on an 8x4 grow space to my grow room and have pretty much decided to go with 4 individual tubs that sit on their own dollies with ScroG screens attached. As I'll be running different strains I don't want one central reservoir plus if the dreaded root rot were to rear it's ugly head then only 25% of the crop is threatened. It's not a lot of work as I've done 40 - 50 DWC tub grows since 2001 and can deal with it in my sleep almost. Ain't gonna be a pretty as what you've dreamed up but as I already have most of the materials and gear it won't cost much or take a lot of time putting it all together.
Your thread has inspired me to lay it all out on paper as I haven't played with a CAD program for almost 30 years when I went back to school for chemistry. We had a basic drafting course so chem-sci students could at least put down on paper something they needed built then hand off the drawings to someone else to build. Still have all my drafting tools and now an itch to put them to work so thanks for that.
I was planning to get into running a continuous grow with autoflowering plants and sketched up a simple NFT table idea I had. Build it out of plywood and coat it all with fiberglass tho it could be an open frame holding 6 or 8" plastic pipe cut in half lengthwise for the channels to set the pots in. Square tubing would be ideal but would have to source that outside my area.
The light(s) just stay on 18 - 20 hours/day and I'd feed smaller plants in one end as I removed ripe plants from the other. One pump to feed nutes into the top and gravity feed back to the rez. Airstones in the rez with an external pump for the nutes. Simple PEX or even garden hose for the feed line to the table.
This is the simple ScroG setup I came up with years back and have done a few like it and it works great.
Here are two of them as I plan to use going forward tho these aren't ScroGed and have way too many Afghani Kush plants in each tub. My DIY chiller works pretty good for the $28 it cost me for two fountain pumps to circulate the nutes from each tub thru coils of 3/8" tubing up to the chiller tank filled with anti-freeze and back to the tubs. I already had the tubing and the cooler was gifted a few years earlier so why not? I'm going to use air cooling to chill the tubs in the new room as it's always cool in the utility basement where the magic happens. 58 - 60F is the warmest it gets down there so no A/C needed.
Each tall tub holds 50L/12.5USG and only need topping up every 3 or days and with pH Perfect nutes I just have to top up with RO water, check ppm and shoot some fresh nutes in to bring the ppm back up to target level. One nute change after the stretch for each is all I do so that's easy as well. I have a $3000 Polar Bear distiller that came with the house that I'm going to sell to buy an RO unit as it's a PITA and dangerous to haul the 5gal jugs down the narrow flight of stairs into the basement. Not to mention I'm 62 and pretty severe arthritis and possibly fibro as well tho the witch doctors from South Africa we have here have no clue how to do anything but hand out pills I don't need or want.
Sure wish I had cheap power like you. Here in Alberta, (the energy province), I'm paying almost $90/mth to run my 1000W light 12hrs/day at 23.5¢/KWH. Plan to go with 2 x 600W HPS on my light rail to do the 8x4 grow space. I have a tent that size but a room will be better in the basement as it gets close to freezing down there when it's -30C outside. The room itself will be 8x6 so I have 2' of space along the grow space to work on the plants without cold air blasting the plants. I may use the tent upstairs in the spare bedroom for a veg space but may just use the bare frame to get more height for hanging lights etc.
Maybe start with a simple grow room and with all the money you save not buying pot elsewhere you can pick up the gear to build your dream room in a year or so after you start cropping some real plants. I'm a little OCD myself but I think you might be further along that road than me.
Two years of planning is enough. Time to grow some green!
Very interesting read but very over-engineered IMHO. One tall RubberMaid tub with four plants in that size grow space would do a great job and yield just as much without all the plumbing etc that you envision for what really is a simple concept.
Don't get me wrong here. I'm not dissing your concept. It looks great and after reading all 11 pages it's obvious that you've put a lot of thought into it all and really flexed your CAD muscles to good ends.
I'm adding on an 8x4 grow space to my grow room and have pretty much decided to go with 4 individual tubs that sit on their own dollies with ScroG screens attached. As I'll be running different strains I don't want one central reservoir plus if the dreaded root rot were to rear it's ugly head then only 25% of the crop is threatened. It's not a lot of work as I've done 40 - 50 DWC tub grows since 2001 and can deal with it in my sleep almost. Ain't gonna be a pretty as what you've dreamed up but as I already have most of the materials and gear it won't cost much or take a lot of time putting it all together.
Your thread has inspired me to lay it all out on paper as I haven't played with a CAD program for almost 30 years when I went back to school for chemistry. We had a basic drafting course so chem-sci students could at least put down on paper something they needed built then hand off the drawings to someone else to build. Still have all my drafting tools and now an itch to put them to work so thanks for that.
I was planning to get into running a continuous grow with autoflowering plants and sketched up a simple NFT table idea I had. Build it out of plywood and coat it all with fiberglass tho it could be an open frame holding 6 or 8" plastic pipe cut in half lengthwise for the channels to set the pots in. Square tubing would be ideal but would have to source that outside my area.
The light(s) just stay on 18 - 20 hours/day and I'd feed smaller plants in one end as I removed ripe plants from the other. One pump to feed nutes into the top and gravity feed back to the rez. Airstones in the rez with an external pump for the nutes. Simple PEX or even garden hose for the feed line to the table.
This is the simple ScroG setup I came up with years back and have done a few like it and it works great.
Here are two of them as I plan to use going forward tho these aren't ScroGed and have way too many Afghani Kush plants in each tub. My DIY chiller works pretty good for the $28 it cost me for two fountain pumps to circulate the nutes from each tub thru coils of 3/8" tubing up to the chiller tank filled with anti-freeze and back to the tubs. I already had the tubing and the cooler was gifted a few years earlier so why not?
I'm going to use air cooling to chill the tubs in the new room as it's always cool in the utility basement where the magic happens. 58 - 60F is the warmest it gets down there so no A/C needed. Each tall tub holds 50L/12.5USG and only need topping up every 3 or days and with pH Perfect nutes I just have to top up with RO water, check ppm and shoot some fresh nutes in to bring the ppm back up to target level. One nute change after the stretch for each is all I do so that's easy as well. I have a $3000 Polar Bear distiller that came with the house that I'm going to sell to buy an RO unit as it's a PITA and dangerous to haul the 5gal jugs down the narrow flight of stairs into the basement. Not to mention I'm 62 and pretty severe arthritis and possibly fibro as well tho the witch doctors from South Africa we have here have no clue how to do anything but hand out pills I don't need or want.
Sure wish I had cheap power like you. Here in Alberta, (the energy province), I'm paying almost $90/mth to run my 1000W light 12hrs/day at 23.5¢/KWH. Plan to go with 2 x 600W HPS on my light rail to do the 8x4 grow space. I have a tent that size but a room will be better in the basement as it gets close to freezing down there when it's -30C outside. The room itself will be 8x6 so I have 2' of space along the grow space to work on the plants without cold air blasting the plants. I may use the tent upstairs in the spare bedroom for a veg space but may just use the bare frame to get more height for hanging lights etc.
Maybe start with a simple grow room and with all the money you save not buying pot elsewhere you can pick up the gear to build your dream room in a year or so after you start cropping some real plants. I'm a little OCD myself but I think you might be further along that road than me.
Two years of planning is enough. Time to grow some green!
JSB99
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SWEET!