I Could Use Some Help With This. Sharksbreath Grow 1000w Hps on Mover-co2- Ebbanflo

sirmonkeyass

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What's up rollitup! Yeah I'm having a nute related problem. Here's the skinny... I am growing 6 sharksbreath plants in a 8'x4' tent with a Capp ebb and gro. Bucket setup. I'm using Dyna gro nutes (so far) and I was in veg for four weeks, now I'm starting week 2 of flowering. I have been using the Dyna gro bloom and pro-tekt at about 800ppm b4 I noticed a problem And dropped it down to 700ppm. After that I noticed leaves falling off from the lowest part of the plants so I figured I was mistaken so I added some magical(cal/mag) and sugardaddy and some other random nutes from technaflora as well as more bloom/protekt from dynagro thinking I would fill in the nutrient gaps. This apparently is not working and I want to nip this before it becomes a big problem. Any ideas?
I have a good bit of tip burn and tip curling and leaf cupping going on and I'm not sure why. Could it be fungus gnats? Infrequent res changes? Ph issues? ( I try to keep it at 5.6) Lack of light on the bottom? (the plants are almost 4') on my phone now will upload pics soon.
 

max316420

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I would say it they are falling off at the bottom that it's either lack of light or lack of nitrogen.. But pics would help also. Ive also been doing alot of reading on dyna grow and have heard alot of good things about it. was thinking of giving it a try myself.
 

sirmonkeyass

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Ok guys here are some pics... I have noticed some slight yellowing of the leaves that are just coming right off. I really need some help here. I have come up with some possible reasons. 1- I havent changed the res in a while (2 weeks?)because i've been topping off with nuted water frequently. 2 plants are too big and the lower leaves are not getting enough light.(is this going to harm yeild?)3- I haven't calibrated my ph meter since I got it and maybe its giving me bad readings....(im taking care of that tomorrow). ugh... any help would be nice... tanks
 

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max316420

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Don't quote me on this but i see one of the leaves are flipped upside down.. I think thats due to a ph problem
 

asaph

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with such a dense canopy (nice work on that!) it's very normal that lower leaves that get absolutely no light (that's what I see in the pic) will yellow and fall of. as long as leaves that do get light look nice and healthy, nothing to worry about. this does not "harm" yield, but doesnt increase it either - to use the lower growth properly and keep it happy you need to supplement it with some CFLs, but I doubt it will make a big difference, with your setup probably not worth it, better to just trim them or watch them slowly die like I do :)

what will make a big difference is better usage of the light in the top layer of the canopy. Scrog is very recommended before flowering (even at your stage), do some reading about it and you'll see.
 

sirmonkeyass

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Yeah I Wanted to scrog but I just never got around to it. No w only have like 6" of space left. ( I topped but they are still getting too tall... Ordered bushmaster to stop vertical growing) I was hoping it's just Lack of light issue... Thanks for the advice!
 

SCARHOLE

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I super Crop my tops over or tie them down when they get to big.

I think you can calibrate your Ph meter off baking soda water. It should read 6.8?

Sharksbreath stretched for about a month for me in flower.


Stick with that SharksBreath,
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sirmonkeyass

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Nice! Yeah I've heard good things about SB I can't wait to see how they turn out... You think I should supercrop or tie down? I'm a Lil more than a week into flowering so I was gonna try to tie them down while I wait on this bushmaster to get here. What do you guys think?
 

asaph

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before scrogging, supercrop all the branches to the same desired height (recommended atleast 40cm+ from the bulb), then you can just place the scrog on top of that canopy and voila. not too late as long as you're not flowering.

edit: i see you are already into. well I was in the exact same trouble a few weeks ago, supercropping didn't help me because they would just bounce right back. if you can tie them all down it will be good but that's actually the same thing as scrogging, which is actually more comfortable, so that's what I did. It would have been much better if i did it before flowering, but still better than letting them grow right into the light.
 

sirmonkeyass

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Yeah, I'm gonna be screwed if they stretch much more... With a mover and an air cooled hood I think I should be able to let them get a few inches away... Right?
 

asaph

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Yeah, I'm gonna be screwed if they stretch much more... With a mover and an air cooled hood I think I should be able to let them get a few inches away... Right?
i got to the point where they started to burn so i did what i did.
 

1337acab

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Nice! Yeah I've heard good things about SB I can't wait to see how they turn out... You think I should supercrop or tie down? I'm a Lil more than a week into flowering so I was gonna try to tie them down while I wait on this bushmaster to get here. What do you guys think?
I dont think you should supercrop if ur in flowering, its going to stress the plant for a week or so, tie the branches down!
 

asaph

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I dont think you should supercrop if ur in flowering, its going to stress the plant for a week or so, tie the branches down!

nah man if it's healthy plant it don't even stress them for half a day... and they're right back up there
 
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