Hawaii Growers

Kona Gold? Afgani x ???
Does the Buds get Bigger if you support the stalks and stems? When they start falling over from weight, is it time to harvest?

herbsDaword said:

Aloha,
Outdoor growers, I sure this question came up somewhere in the past 444 pages ago but...Does any one know what the cross would be for Kona Gold and perhaps Maui Woowie?

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herbsDaword said:

So what? No buddy have any idea, or just no care...what happened to all the Aloha?
Kona Gold+=? or is it a myth?

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just no care? no aloha?? ..sheeesh!! what about option C.... no one knowws for sure.maui wowee is what we called weed grown in maui. kona gold is what we called weed grown in kona. this is just my knowledge of the terms. if you want someone to try and attempt to give you an answer with genetics, try asking randomkindness. if anyone on this forum would know what the answer is, it would be him.....


is that enough aloha for you? I can hunt down randomkindness if you want. for da aloha of course.

Thank you,
The Kona Gold Legend, Im sure it has to be established. I can't believe that it would be a generic name for anything coming out of BI.
Yo Doc, my stalks are sagging from the weight of the blooms. After a feed the bugga sag more! no joke...
Anyhow, I think its near the end of its life cycle so I haven't bothered with any support.
Then I wondered if I would have better results if the heavy colas were all supported. I don't know, but I know you know....

herbsDaword said:

Thank you,
The Kona Gold Legend, Im sure it has to be established. I can't believe that it would be a generic name for anything coming out of BI.
Yo Doc, my stalks are sagging from the weight of the bloomz. It weeks like after a feed the bugga sag more! no joke...
Anyhow, I think its near the end of its life cycle so I haven't bothered with any support.
Then I wondered if I would have better results if the heavy colas were all supported. I don't know, but I know you know....

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you welcome. sorry if I sounded rude but you'll get used to it, lol! anyway, I pm'd the dude randomkindness to see if he knows the answer. I'm sure he will get back to me or either the thread if he knows. but I wanna know what the real scoop is too. maybe punabud can enlighten us?? sheckster??

two quotes from friends:

a friend speaking of his kona gold cut
"Its The Original Stuff. Only Thing Its A Clone Only Strain As I Have Not Cubed Her Yet. But, I Do Have Her If You Want Some. They Turn Into A More Of A Sativa Dom And High Is Cerebrial In The Best Possible Way. They Hermy If Taken Over Aged But, The Result Is Unreal If You Like Open No Ceiling Highs. They Dont Make You Paranoid Or Anythinglike Other Cerebral Highs Do. This One Has An Open High And Wonfderful Meditation Smoke Or Daytime Toke"

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re: hawaii strains
"At the risk of getting bashed i will make one statement and i will not repeat it ever again on here. The strains that have been coming out of hawaii......puna butters, kona gold, maui wowie, etc. These are the strains that have been marketed. They do not represent completely what really is here in hawaii. But yet....everyone asks for them because its what they have been conditioned to ask for. As per the ads and word of mouth through various channels. Again, these do not represent everything hawaii has to offer. They are simply put...what the stateside growers were told was good from here. Im not saying they are junk. Oh no im not saying that by a long shot. Im simply saying that there is a whole lot more than the normal names that we all hear from hawaii. We have a pretty tight genetic pool here. But, in recent years there has been an influx of genetics coming in. That was unavoidable. The trick is to find the breeders that have been keeping their stuff for a while. These are the guys that stand by what they breed. Dont go for the old name brand because you were conditioned to ask for that. I can get you some of whatever it is you want. But, i can also get you something better. Know what i mean? Its the old snake oil thing remember?

so...take it for what its worth. The oldies are good. I know because i have them. LOL!!! But, the new hawaiian stuff is "to me" better in a few ways. Again, this is only from the true breeders that want to improve on a line. Not from joe blow that has all the maui wowie you can handle for 250 an ounce. Take the time to ask the hawaii guys whats involved in their lines and so on. The truthful ones will be honest. The crooks will be crooks no matter what. The hawaiian lines have improved so much lately in the hands of the right guys. Get the right stuff gang!"

thanks hawaiian!

The history of Ganja in Hawaii is pretty interesting..
I can't reveal my source but the story makes sense to me so I will share it...

There are many on the mainland who believe that many of the Hawaiian heritage strains (discussed above ex. kona gold) are landrace... Apparently not true...


First signs of the magic herb came in the the late 1850s when the Chinese were brought to Hawaii to work in the suger cane fields.. Not a major incursion of Marijuana because it stayed within the Chinese immigrant community but it was something that supposedly stuck around until present day history... The Chinese were the first of many different immigrant groups that came to Hawaii to work the fields, including the Portuguese, Filipinos, Japanese, and Koreans.. (The Chinese were the only ones to bring any ganja along with other herbs)

Another influx supposedly came in the late 1940s and 1950s with the jazz musicians and hollywood scene that were being transplanted to the islands..

Then in the late 1960s to Mid 1970's California hippies who traveled to exotic places collecting strains brought them here to grow, mostly concentrated in the area southwest of Hilo... and like any other invasive species, the hippies fanned out to the other island spreading their joy to the uncles of yesteryear...

These strains became the basic ingredients for what would later become Maui Wowee, Kona Gold, etc etc..
Oaxacan varieties (mexico), Columbian Gold, Panama Red, and Thai were the sativa bases... and Afghan as the main indica source...

What say you?

A couple of weeks ago I was on Oahu. Stopped by 'Hands of Aloha', to put Aron into a "rear-naked choke",but he wasn't there. Got to talking to business partner about IMO. There are some KoreAN Farmers here who cultivate the IMO's. They sell it too. Price now is $20.00 for a 50 pound bag of it. It was $15.00 for several months during summer. But $20.00 is still a good deal for 50 pds. If anyone wants any let me know and we can make arrangements to get it sent to you folks on Oahu. For any serious growers, this is a must in a growers "tool chest".
"A", I'm looking for Korean's info now. I promised info regarding IMO for your business partner. Please tell him info is coming.

Oh, about "rear naked choke", that was a joke![/QUOTE]




Shit was almost crying when i heard you stopped in. I wanted to meet you as much as i like the sound of your "rear-naked choke" but for real I like what you said about the IMO and the info you gave on that post. next time your IN "Green Hands Of Aloha" tell them to call me I'll make sure im there for your Friendly Aloha Sorry i never call you When I was on BI next time. did you go to the Ed show in Kona??

My source says that like Columbian Gold Hawaiians bent the plants and dried in the sun and thats why it was gold and hence the names.

Ive seen plants ripen and look golden. They were not sun dried and I got the beans from my family in big island.

Sheckster said:

The history of Ganja in Hawaii is pretty interesting..
I can't reveal my source but the story makes sense to me so I will share it...

There are many on the mainland who believe that many of the Hawaiian heritage strains (discussed above ex. kona gold) are landrace... Apparently not true...


First signs of the magic herb came in the the late 1850s when the Chinese were brought to Hawaii to work in the suger cane fields.. Not a major incursion of Marijuana because it stayed within the Chinese immigrant community but it was something that supposedly stuck around until present day history... The Chinese were the first of many different immigrant groups that came to Hawaii to work the fields, including the Portuguese, Filipinos, Japanese, and Koreans.. (The Chinese were the only ones to bring any ganja along with other herbs)

Another influx supposedly came in the late 1940s and 1950s with the jazz musicians and hollywood scene that were being transplanted to the islands..

Then in the late 1960s to Mid 1970's California hippies who traveled to exotic places collecting strains brought them here to grow, mostly concentrated in the area southwest of Hilo... and like any other invasive species, the hippies fanned out to the other island spreading their joy to the uncles of yesteryear...

These strains became the basic ingredients for what would later become Maui Wowee, Kona Gold, etc etc..
Oaxacan varieties (mexico), Columbian Gold, Panama Red, and Thai were the sativa bases... and Afghan as the main indica source...

What say you?

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Am I truly the only "old fart" here on RUI who can give this story from personal experience? For you guys who are unaware, I'm damn near 60 yrs old!!! I lived through this modern renaissance cannbis period of Hawaii. Been a major part of this cannabis war in Hawaii since the day the FEDS repelled onto my property in Haiku at daybreak that early morning in 77! But before
i truly got involved with growing, surfing was my number one hobby/addiction back then. As a matter of fact, surfing took me around the world twice! It was during these photo/trips i started collecting a seed here and a seed there from places I visited & smoked at, and most impotantly,surfed at!
So when you folks talk about "Johnny Appleseeds of Hawaii", please, oh please give credit where credit is due. The surf community, made up of "traveling heads" like myself learned early of the rewards of traveling abroad.

As for people generalizing of their stash. It happened a lot. Back in the 70's when growing on Maui,everything was considered "Maui Wowie" Same thing happened in Kona or anywhere else in in Hawaii with cannabis. But anybody worth their salt back in the 70's hardly ever seeked out "Maui Wowie". Local wise, "Elephant" was the cannabis of choice, all that other stuff was a distant second! I laugh about Mango Weed. Back in the day it was just plants that grew under & around mango trees. Cannabis has this uncanny ability to pick up the fragerances that surround it here in Hawaii. Mixed in with a good soil and you've got yourself something outta this fucking world!!

Tunda said:

Ive seen plants ripen and look golden. They were not sun dried and I got the beans from my family in big island.

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brah, I got stuff right now that is red/gold in color!

Elephant!! Everytime i talk to an old timer, that would be the one strain always mentioned

man im sure glad and thankful i found this forum, you people are someting else, its hard to find this many quality people in a group these days...just wanted to let you guys know that ..thanks again

howzit guys jus a update on wat i got goin...

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nice plants bro.

I almost forgot too. When the winter use to roll around that when things use to get real interesting. Surfers like Jeff Crawford & Roger Kincaid from Florida would come to Hawaii with suitcases full of Colombian to pay for their winter surf session on the North Shore. felipe Polamar would bring the Coke up from Peru back then. Dick Brewer and all his shapers(Leroy Dennis, Owl Chapman, Sammy Hawk) were strung out and slinging "china White" on the north shore back. I'll be the first to admit, I used it to contain my personal fear factor out at Sunset on a 15 to 18 ft day on a North West swell by using a bit of it. Gerry Lopez, aka Mr. Pipeline had a surfboard business called 'Lightning Bolt Surfboards', with a shop on Kapiolani Blvd. Gerry made his money to open his shop, selling pakalolo. It was a strain called "lighning Bolt!" So surfers were omni present in pakalolo smoke/grow scene..

Gerry Lopez is da man!! Mr. Pipeline.

Legal patient here, I can not grow and am in desperate need of a caregiver in kauai who knows how to grow kush, purpz and sour diesel.

Puna Bud do you know many oldschool paniolo growers? i have a few pictures of old paniolo growing many plants