Feelgood Farms - Back in action - With Rabbitt Poop?! 2.4 -1.4 -.60

doogleef

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What-up guys! I am back with a jrow journl as promised. I am going to make this one interesting as I will be using a totally new fert to me -- Rabbit Manure :clap:. I happen to have a house rabbit so it is in plentiful supply. :shock:

I picked up 6 clones from Karma 10 days ago now and dropped them in my veg tent under a 250MH in a cooltube hood w/wing and a 4" inline fan. They are in plain root organic soil for now. I've been running sub's supersoil "just add water" mix but don't really have the $$ to do a full mix at the moment so I am going to try a new method to start. If it starts to go bad I can always transplant them into a SS mix down the road.

Anyway .. to the good stuff. I'm going to use Rabbit Manure as a primary fertilizer. I won't do any other fertilizers unless my ladies ask for it. If you google Rabbit Manure you will come up with lots of reference material but this is a good synopsis from riseandshinerabbitry.com

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Anyone who comes to the homestead and comes within eyesight of the gardens ask ” WOW do you use miracle grow” little do they know they just opened up a can of worms. Because now they get to discuss rabbit manure and its many benefits-whether they want to or not. I am determined to spread the word of raising rabbits, and all the benefits that go with it. That’s how i came up with our slogan- Raising Meat Rabbits To Save The World!
Rabbit manure is the best manure for your organic gardens. It will increase poor soil by improving soil structure and also improving the life cycle of the beneficial microorganisms in the soil. Rabbits are very good at producing an excellent source of manure. It is rich in nutrients and very simple to use. One doe and her offspring will produce over one ton of manure in a year.
Rabbit manure is packed with nitrogen,phosphorus,and potassium, and minerals, and lots of micro-nutrients, plus many other beneficial trace elements such as calcium, magnesium, boron, zinc, manganese, sulfur, copper, and cobalt to name a few.

N – P – K VALUES – Rabbit 2.4 -1.4 -.60 Chicken 1.1-.80-.50 Sheep .70-.30-.60 Horse .70-.30-.60 Steer .70-.30-.40 Dairy Cow .25-.15-.25

As you can see the nutrient values of farm manures and how they measure up and rabbit manure really shines! Rabbit manure also doesn’t smell as strong as other manures making it easy to use
Nitrogen(N)- Rabbit manure is higher in nitrogen than sheep,goat,pig,chicken,cow or horse manure. Plants need nitrogen to produce lush,green growth. Nitrogen helps plants grow greener stronger ensuring that the vegetation reaches its full potential. This is perfect for all those salad greens you want to grow or the early phases when growing tomatoes, corn, and other vegetables.
Phosphorus(P)- Rabbit manure is also higher in phosphorus than the other manures. It helps with the transformation of solar energy to chemical energy. Which in turn helps with proper plant maturation. Also helps plants to withstand stress. Phosphorus in the soil encourages more and bigger blossoms helping with flowering and fruiting also great for root growth.
Potassium(K)- Potassium helps with fruit quality and reduction of disease plants will not grow without it. Plants use potassium as an enzyme to produce proteins and sugars.They also uses potassium to control water content.
More than just the awsome NPK values of rabbit manure it is loaded with a host of micro-nutrients as well as organic matter that improves soil tithe, drainage, and moisture retention, and the friable texture of the soil. Vegetable gardens,pastures,and flower gardens all will flourish from the use of rabbit manure. It helps retain soil moisture and soil structure. Rabbit manure is one of the few fertilizers that will not burn your plants when added directly to the garden and can be safely used on food plants. Grab a handful from under the hutch and use it as is or work it into the topsoil. Rabbit manure at first glance many seem to be less powerful than commercial fertilizers but in reality they are better and healthier for your garden providing food and nourishment for your plants as well as earthworms and other beneficial animals and microorganisms in your soil were as chemical additives can kill all soil life. Some manures have to be aged so they do not harm your garden, Bunny Berries can be used fresh as is. This is also a very organic way to add nutrients back to you soil.
HOW TO USE-
Use It As Is-Bunny Berries- Because rabbit manure is dry,odorless,and in pellet form makes it suitable for direct use in the garden. It can be applied any time of the year and helps give your plants a boost during the growing season or as a storehouse of nutrients when applied in the late fall and winter. Because it is considered a cold manure there is no threat of burning plants and roots. So use it as a top- dressing, mulch around plants, bury in the ground under transplants or just working it into the soil right from the rabbit. This is the easiest way to use your Super fertilizer! Grab a handful and add it to your garden today. The Berries are a time release capsule of goodness for your soil. This is the way i use it the most in my gardens, so the next time you find yourself knee deep in rabbit poop just add it to your garden!
Compost It-Composting rabbit manure is an easy process and the end result will be ideal fertilizer for gardens plants and crops. I only compost the rabbit manure/urine/shaving mix i get from my drop pans in the stack a hutch setup. Simply add to your compost bin or pile and add in equal amounts of dry straw or shaving to the manure (Unless like me you only compost the shaving/poop mix-the shaving have all ready been added plus the urine starts the heat up fast!) you can also mix in your usally composted materials grass clippings, leaves ,kitchen scraps. Mix with a pitchfork and keep the pile moist not saturated you may have to cover it with a tarp. It will take any were from a few months to a year depending on how often you turn it. I have heard some of my composting friends complaining that their compost pile will not heat up. The poop/urine/shaving mix is the best compost activator i have seen. Add it, turn it, and it will heat up! If you can get your hands on even a small bucket of this mix every now and then you and your compost pile will be in nitrogen heaven as far as composting rabbit manure goes rabbit manure is nitrogen on steroids it will get your pile hot and breaking down at accelerated rates .Those friends with the cold compost piles are usally here on cage cleaning day with buckets and shovels. Now if i could just figure out to have them do all the cleaning chores!
Manure Tea-Bunny Brew- Rabbit manure tea is the colored water that manure has been steeped in and is full of nutrients making a concentrated liquid organic garden fertilizer!. The nutrients from the manure dissolve easily into the water were it can be added to sprayers or watering cans. To make the tea, put a heaping shovel full of rabbit manure in a burlap bag or porous cloth with the four corners tied together. Put the bag in a 5 gallon bucket and fill with water. Allow it to seep in the warm sunshine for a week. Remove the bag and suspend it above the bucket until it stops dripping. You can speed up the process by putting manure directly into the bucket with the water and let it sit for 3 days, stirring daily. Then put some burlap over the top of another empty bucket (making a strainer) and pour thru the cloth to strain out the solids. Suspend the solids in the makeshift strainer above the bucket until it stops dripping. In both processes the solids will not have released all their nutrients to the tea, and they will still be a beneficial soil amendment (put into the garden or compost pile). If you have many plants,you may want to use a big barrel use the ratio of 1 part manure to 5 parts water. To use the Tea, dilute it until it is about the color of kitchen tea, which should be about one cup of the concentrated manure tea to a gallon of water. Use it to dip every new plant before you transplant them. Dip only the root ball, until bubbles stop coming to the surface (also do this to trees and shrubs before transplanting). Also wet furrows before planting, and fill holes with it before you plant trees or shrubs. Wait until it is all absorbed into the soil allowing all the nutrients to permeate the nearby soil of the plant you are planting. Making and using manure tea is a great way to give your garden crops the extra boost they need for optimal health and growth. Give once a week as a fertilizer and throw out your miracle grow! Experience will tell how often to use and how much. Now that you know how to make bunny brew, you can use it all the time to give your plants that extra boost!"
 

doogleef

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10 days in the ladies are doing really well. Everyone recovered from the transplant and starting shooting new growth. I topped them yesterday and today I can hardly see the pinch spot as the secondary growing shoots have covered already. These are vigorous growing little ladies so I am happy with them so far. They have some very slight purpling on the stems which is an early sign of N deff so I went ahead and put a few rabbit pellets on top of the soil and watered as normal today. I made up some Bunny Brew yesterday and it's sitting in the sun now. Should be good to go by the end of the week.

I know you guys really thrive on pictures and I will take some but do you really need more pics of 10 day old vegging clones? lol
 

Medshed

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doog - first off, welcome back! Nice re-entry with the rabbit poo grow!! I happen to have a rabbit in the house (and chickens on the way) myself so I'll be watching with much interest. In fact, now that I read the post about how to use rabbit poo I'm going to send a cease and desist letter to my daughter to stop throwing that stuff away. It is all going into my veggie garden from this point forward. I'll hold off on experimenting with the high-value garden until I see how it works for you... :mrgreen:
 

doogleef

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@FarmerEd - I supposed I could drop a stone in the jug. I have plenty of that stuff laying around from hydro kits of the past but the primary benefits of that is odor reduction and it doesn't really smell that bad. I've used some really nasty over-the-counter stuff in the past that is much worse. I'm not that concerned about non-beneficial bacteria either. The brew actually has some bubbling action on it's own. All fungi is aerobic.

@meshed - Thanks for the warm welcome. :hug: I have almost given up on the idea that marijuana needs much special treatment beyond what any plant wants / needs. Lighting, clean water, ventilation and temp, N-P-K-Ca-S-Mg and the micros ... beyond that it's all genetics :weed:
 

doogleef

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I'll be putting together my bloom op sooner than expected. I had planned on 2 more weeks in veg but the girls will be grown out of their home by next weekend. Time to get to work... :arrow:

I'll be doing a single 1000w HPS in a 5'x5' cooled by an 8"HO CAN with a filter when needed. I'll either go buy another hood for the HPS or just use the one from the veg tent and let it's little MH hang vert in the other socket I have.

Pics coming soon ... promise
 

doogleef

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The solo pic is a querkle. A chat buddy very familiar with the line should be able to tell me which pheno it is ;)
 

Georgie13

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I was also going to use rabbit poo... We have three of them. Do you think I can go a full grow from start to finish with using only bunny poo instead of having to use bottled nutrients?
 

doogleef

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I was also going to use rabbit poo... We have three of them. Do you think I can go a full grow from start to finish with using only bunny poo instead of having to use bottled nutrients?
I can tell you at this point that I am sure you can use it as a veg nutrient and I run a veg nute until about 3 weeks into bloom so it can certainly save you that $$. We will see what happens going forward into bloom.

In the future I plan on mixing it into a supersoil trial. I'll see what happens. :weed:
 

doogleef

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New bloom room is up and running. It's about 5ftx6ft. 1000W horti HPS, 6" cooltube w/ batwing, 8"HO Can for light and exhaust. Timer set to 12HR :) .

Ladies are happy in 5 gallon buckets of root organic soil with just a few bunny pellets mixed it. I do have some lower leaves that are damaged but that is from me letting them get wilty, not a nutrient issue.

Pix tomorrow...
 

doogleef

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I was wondering around the garden center today and went ahead and bought some high P guano to aid in budset. I know i said I would not use anything other than the rabbit unless they asked .. and they are not asking for anything :) . But I am 4 days into 12/12 now and am thinking a bit of extra P will help them a bit in their transition. I'll just topdress with it and water it in.

The ladies are going crazy under the big light with lots of new growth every day. The godbud are the largest and the querkle are the stinkiest so far.

I know i promised pix before but I hate to take shots under that damn HPS. I plan on doing some mild training tonight when the lights come on so I will get some decent shots under normal lighting.

The new growth is coming on so fast it's that lime green color for a couple days till it darkens out to the beautiful green we know and love. I love the beginning of budset...
 

doogleef

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O yea, you guys probably saw already but I got a co2 rig. $40 for a tank (craigslist) and $42 (ebay) for a regulator that should be here by next Thurs - right about the time to start using it.

I'll be redirecting my exhaust to cool the light with air from outside the space and using the online co2 flow rate calculators to get started. Can't afford a real controller right now. My fan is rated at about 750cfm so it will probably pull quite a bit of air from my plastic room even if I move it's intake a few feet away so I will run everything a bit heavy on flow and test it in about a week.

Cheers... :weed:
 

doogleef

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I did some LST tonight just to spread things out a bit and control the impending stretch a bit.

You'll notice the really light new growth. If it doe not darken off in the next couple days I'll start feeding heavier.
 

doogleef

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Well damn. Cal deff. It is time to abort this experiment and supplement some things. I'll post some details later

Conclusion:

Rabbit manure pellets or a tea made from rabbit manure are excellent sources of High N fertilizer that is very beneficial to the plants in the vegetative state of growth. I developed a cal def about 1 week into bloom.
 

doogleef

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Makes a good veg fert and given the fact that I did not have any real buffering agents in the soil other than what comes in the roots dirt my early deff may have been induced by a whacky PH. It's 8.5 out of the tap and i was not really compensating. I am used to my premix SS that does everything for me, lol.

I supplemented some dolomite, guano, epsom, a bit more rabbit tea, some azomite and some molasses in a super tea a couple days ago and the deff signs stopped so that's good. In fact, I now have a bit of burn showing on a few tips so it is time to kickback and give them PH'd water for a couple weeks at least.

I found some early thrip damage and 1 little white bastard bug on 1 plant so I went ahead and treated them all with some "don't bug me" pyrth spray to knock 'em out. Damn roots organic soil .. grrr. :evil: One of the Querkle and one of the LA Woman are a bit unhappy about the dousing inchrysanthemum juice but they will get over it. They are a bit lighter than the rest and are not switching over quite as quick as their 'clones'.

I can say with confidence that Karma clones are coming from; at best, different pheno moms, and at worst just different lines all together because I am getting some varied results in what should be fairly identical pots.

Pix tonight if I can muster the desire to bring the buckets out from that damn HPS.

Cheers... bongsmilie
 
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