cal/mag lock out

Travis9226

Travis9226

Active Member
Okay I'm in week seven of flower on Barney's farm tangerine dreams. Well last week I noticed some sporting and chalked it up to potassium def so I loaded up my next feeding with extra p and k. Well now the leaves have worsened and starting to cup.

I think cal mag can be locked out with too much p k in your soil, correct me if I'm wrong on this. So I think I made my problem worse.

My question is, should I do a complete flush? And give another dose of cal mag and some fulvic acid?

I only want to flower for another 2-3 weeks but its starting to effect the buds and need some help as soon as possible. Thank you RIU.
 
Krondizzel

Krondizzel

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[FONT=&amp]Action Mode, Deficiency and Toxicity Symptoms of the 17 Essential Nutrients.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]MACRO NUTRIENTS[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Nutrient[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Action Mode[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Deficiency[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Excess[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Comments[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Nitrogen (N)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as NO3-, NH4+; responsible for rapid foliage growth and green color; easily leaches from soil, especially NO3-; mobile in plant, moving to new growth[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Reduced growth, light green to yellow foliage (chlorosis); reds and purples may intensify with some plants; reduced lateral breaks; symptoms appear first on older growth[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Succulent growth, leaves are dark green, thick and brittle; poor fruit set; excess ammonia can induce calcium deficiency[/FONT]
 [FONT=&amp]The best NH4+/NO3- ratio is 1/1; high NH4+ under low light can cause leaf curl; uptake inhibited by high P levels; indoors, best N/K ratio is 1/1 unless light is extremely high; in soils with high C/N ratio more N should be supplied.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Phosphorus (P)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Promotes root formation and growth; affects quality of seed, fruit and [/FONT][FONT=&amp]flower production[/FONT][FONT=&amp]; increased disease resistance; does not leach from soil readily; mobile in plant, moving to new growth[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Reduced growth; leaves dark green; purple or red color in older leaves, especially on the underside of the leaf along the veins; leaf shape may be distorted; thin stems; limited root growth[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Shows up as micronutrient deficiency of Zn, Fe, or Co[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Rapidly "fixed" on soil particles; when applied under acid conditions, fixed with Fe, Mn and Al; under alkaline conditions fixed with Ca; high P interferes with micronutrient and N absorption; used in relatively small amounts when compared to N and K; availability is lowest in cold soils.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Potassium (K)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Helps plants overcome drought stress; improves winter hardiness; increased disease resistance; improves the rigidity of stalks; leaches from soil; mobile in plant[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Reduced growth; shortened internodes; margins of older leaves become chlorotic and burn; necrotic (dead) spots on older leaves; reduction of lateral breaks and tendency to wilt readily; poorly developed root systems; weak stalks[/FONT] Causes N deficiency in plant and may affect the uptake of other positive ions such as Mg and Ca [FONT=&amp]High N/low K favors vegetative growth; low N/high K promotes reproductive growth (flower, fruit); calcium excess impedes uptake of potassium[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Magnesium (Mg)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as Mg++; leaches from sandy soil; mobile in plant[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Reduction in growth; yellowish, bronze, or reddish color of older leaves, while veins remains green; leaf margins may curl downward or upward with a puckering effect[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Interferes with Ca uptake; small necrotic spots in older leaves; smaller veins in older leaves may turn brown; in advanced stage, young leaves may be spotted[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Mg is commonly deficient in foliage plants because it is leached and not replaced; epsom salts at a rate of 1 teaspoon per gallon may be used two times a year; Mg can be absorbed by leaves if sprayed in a weak solution; dolomitic limestone can be applied in outdoor situations to rectify a deficiency[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Calcium (Ca)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as Ca++; moderately leachable; limited mobility in plant; essential for growth of shoot and root tips; reduces the toxicity of aluminum and manganese[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Inhibition of bud growth; roots can turn black and rot; young leaves are scalloped and abnormally green; leaf tips may stick together; cupping of maturing leaves; blossom end rot of many fruits, pits on root vegetables; stem structure is weak; premature shedding of fruit and buds[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Interferes with Mg absorption; high Ca usually causes high pH which then precipitates many of the micronutrient so they become unavailable to the plant[/FONT]
 [FONT=&amp]Ca is rarely deficient if the correct pH is maintained; too much or too little water, can affect Ca relationships within the plant causing deficiency in the location where Ca was needed at the time of stress[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Sulfur (S)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as SO4-; leachable; not mobile; contributes to odor and taste of some vegetables[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Rarely deficient; general yellowing of the young leaves then the entire plant; veins lighter in color than adjoining interveinal area; roots and stems are small, hard and woody[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Sulfur excess is usually in the form of air pollution[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Sulfur excess is difficult to control but rarely a problem.[/FONT]
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MICRONUTRIENT[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Nutrient[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Mode of Action[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Deficiency[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Excess /Comments[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Iron (Fe)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as Fe++, Fe+++; accumulates in the oldest leaves and is relative immobile in the phloem; necessary for the maintenance of chlorophyll[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Interveinal chlorosis primarily on young tissue, which may become white; Fe deficiency may occur even if Fe is in the soil when: soil high in Ca, poorly drained soil, soil high in Mn, high pH, high P, soil high in heavy metals (Cu, Zn), oxygen deficient soils or when nematodes attack the roots; Fe should be added in the chelate form; the type of chelate needed depends upon the soil pH; foliar fertilization will temporarily correct the deficiency; may be deficient in centipedegrass where pH and P are high[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Rare except on flooded soils[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Boron (B)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as B(OH)3-; important in enabling photosynthetic transfer; very immoble in plants[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Failure to set seed; internal breakdown of fruit or vegetable; death of apical buds, giving rise to witches broom; failure of root tip to elongate normally; young leaves become thick, leathery, and chlorotic; rust colored cracks and corking on young stems, petioles and flower stalks (e.g. heart rot of beets, stem crack of celery); breakdown occurs at the base of the youngest shoots[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Tips and edges of leaves exhibit necrotic spots coalescing into a marginal scorch (similiar to high soluable salts); oldest leaves are affected first; plants are easily damaged by excess application[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Zinc (Zn)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as Zn++; enzyme activity[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Young leaves are very small, sometimes missing leaf blades; short internodes; distorted or puckered leaf margins; interveinal chlorosis[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Sever stunting, reddening; poor germination; older leaves wilt; entire leaf is affected by chlorosis, edges and main vein often retain more color; can be caused by galvanized metal.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Copper (Cu)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as Cu++, Cu+; enzyme activity[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]New growth small, misshapen, wilted; may be found in some peat soils; in some species young leaves may show interveinal chlorosis while tips of older leaves remain green.[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Can occur at low pH; shows up as Fe deficiency[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Manganese (Mn)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as Mn++[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Interveinal chlorosis with smallest leaves remaining green producing a checkered effect; grey or tan spots usually develop in chlorotic areas; dead spots may drop out of the leaf; poor bloom size and color; induced by excessively high pH.[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Reduction in growth, brown spotting on leaves; shows up as Fe deficiency; found under strongly acid conditions[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Molybdenum (Mo)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as MoO4-[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Interveinal chlorosis on older or midstem leaves; twisted leaves (whiptail); marginal scorching and rolling or cupping of leaves; nitrogen deficiency symptoms may develop[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Intense yellow or purple color in leaves; rarely observed[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Chlorine (Cl)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as Cl -[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Wilted leaves which become bronze then chlorotic then die; club roots[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Salt injury, leaf burn, may increase succulence[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Cobalt (Co)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as Co++[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]This need by plants recently established; essential for Nitrogen fixation[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Little is known about its deficiency or toxicity symptoms[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Nickel (Ni)[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]Absorbed as Ni+[/FONT] [FONT=&amp]This need by plants recently established; essential for seed development[/FONT]
 
Krondizzel

Krondizzel

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Excess potassium causes N def. and you start losing the ability to uptake Cal/Mag too.

Nutrient lockout can occur if your PH is off. Sounds like since youre at the end of flowering, your boosting the K, and its showing you what happens if you have too much of it.
 
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