AP News: Trump campaign’s Russia contacts ‘grave’ threat, Senate says

CANON_Grow

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The pretty knowledgeable bunch seems to think it was okay to impeach a sitting president for making a phone call that he was absolutely qualified and supposed to make, and ignore a president who actually did what the other guy was accused of. They also seem to have missed the "collusion" thing...where the dossier the "collusion" was based on was actually paid for by the DNC. It was okay to impeach a president for the intended election interference of his opponents...

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Did you see what Trump did??? He threw that fish food right into the pond!! How disrespectful!!! (the camera caught, moments before, Prime Minister Abe doing the SAME thing!)

Did you see Trump with the German chancellor's wife? She wouldn't shake his hand!! Smart woman... (the camera caught, moments before, her giving him a HUG!)

Trump is going to get us in a war with North Korea!!! Trump became the first president, in my lifetime (and I'm 64), to step foot on North Korean soil. But, not once did he EVER show weakness to North Korea!!
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Now watch, as my post gets lots of "Haha's" (from those who can't refute what I said - if you can't argue against it, just make fun of it...mostly why I don't make comments here, other than my canna stuff), or arguments that reference such independent sources as CNN and MSNBC.
This feels like a more appropriate spot for this:

Why should anyone spend any time trying to refute what you said? Everyone here understands what was in the Mueller report, but MAGA followers choose to ignore it. Why would MAGA followers acknowledge anything posted here?

Is this what not showing weakness looks like to you?

North Korea, under the leadership of Kim Jong Un, will become a great Economic Powerhouse. He may surprise some but he won’t surprise me, because I have gotten to know him & fully understand how capable he is. North Korea will become a different kind of Rocket - an Economic one!
TFFG


So much strength....
 

Sativied

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I too ignored there cause wrong thread. I'll add this, Trump bowing for a dictator who threatens with nukes. Weak af.
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And while the other two situations, aside from being old and read like it was posted 4 years ago, are indeed good examples of the eagerness CNN for example had to fabricate outrage, there are many other examples that should make it obvious Trump is a laughing stock on the international stage, often literally. He's such embarrassment to the White House and the US that the only person he could find are other authoritarians and actual evil dictators. Trump setting foot on NK soil had no benefit, is not prestigious in any way, and is given his bowing for the dictator anything but an accomplishment. Trump is the definition of a weak character, one has to be severely detached from reality and unfamiliar with the Fonz to not see that.
 

hanimmal

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I too ignored there cause wrong thread. I'll add this, Trump bowing for a dictator who threatens with nukes. Weak af.
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And while the other two situations, aside from being old and read like it was posted 4 years ago, are indeed good examples of the eagerness CNN for example had to fabricate outrage, there are many other examples that should make it obvious Trump is a laughing stock on the international stage, often literally. He's such embarrassment to the White House and the US that the only person he could find are other authoritarians and actual evil dictators. Trump setting foot on NK soil had no benefit, is not prestigious in any way, and is given his bowing for the dictator anything but an accomplishment. Trump is the definition of a weak character, one has to be severely detached from reality and unfamiliar with the Fonz to not see that.
It is mind-blowing that people would read him say stupid shit and think to themselves wow that is so much better than Biden.

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hanimmal

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Donald Trump has overtly taken the side of dictators including Putin, Xi, Orbán, and Kim over the past eight years, most likely because he admires the way each has crushed efforts toward democracy and ruled their respective nations with an iron fist.

Now US intelligence agencies say their big worry is that one or more of these nations will reciprocate Trump’s love by launching some sort of October Surprise to push voters closer to Trump in time for this fall’s election. Such an action could swing our election toward Trump, but also risks provoking a third world war.

The phrase October Surprise, of course, refers to the successful deal that the Reagan campaign cut with Iran’s Ayatollah’s government to hold the American hostages in the US Embassy in Tehran until after the 1980 election to destroy President Jimmy Carter’s chances. Both Iran’s then-president, Abolhassan Bani-Sadr, and the former Lt. Governor of Texas, Ben Barnes, have verified the plot, the latter last year in The New York Times.

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In an NBC News article from May 24th titled “Are Russia and North Korea planning an ‘October surprise’ that aids Trump?” reporters Cortney Kube and Carol E. Lee note that there could be serious consequences arising from the fact that North Korea is today giving Russia more weaponry to use against Ukraine than all of Europe has been able to provide to President Zelenskyy:

“U.S. officials are also bracing for North Korea to potentially take its most provocative military actions in a decade close to the U.S. presidential election, possibly at Putin’s urging…
“The increasingly close relationship between Putin and Kim represents a major shift from when Russia worked with the U.S. in the past to try to rein in North Korea. Now, Moscow is using its veto power on the U.N. Security Council to give Pyongyang cover to evade sanctions enforcement measures intended to constrain its nuclear program.”
North Korea firing missiles into the demilitarized zone between it and South Korea to help Trump could represent a major escalation of tensions in the region, as would an October nuclear test or attack on South Korea’s border islands. It could also precipitate a major war in the region with the potential to spread worldwide.

While China has, in the past, counseled Kim to refrain from overly bombastic or provocative behavior to keep tensions in the region low, their increasingly bellicose actions and rhetoric toward Taiwan suggest they may welcome regional chaos which Xi could then use as a pretext to attack that island nation.

As Michael Schuman wrote for an article titled “Why Xi Wants Trump to Win” in The Atlantic:

“By weakening U.S. standing abroad and democracy at home, Trump would offer Xi more opportunities than Biden to extend Chinese influence and win hearts and minds within the developing world.”
Our government has noticed: Three months ago, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) published their Annual Threat Assessment. It was unambiguous about what they’re already seeing in the works for this election year:

“The PRC [People’s Republic of China] may attempt to influence the U.S. elections in 2024 at some level because of its desire to sideline critics of China and magnify U.S. societal divisions. PRC actors have increased their capabilities to conduct covert influence operations and disseminate disinformation. … The PRC aims to sow doubts about U.S. leadership, undermine democracy, and extend Beijing’s influence.”
Similarly, The New York Times reported last month that China — in a move reminiscent of Putin’s millions of Internet Research Agency troll posts promoting Trump on Facebook leading up to the 2016 election — is all in on using social media, including, apparently, TikTok, to crush Biden and lift Trump into the White House:

“Some of the Chinese accounts impersonate fervent Trump fans, including one on X that purported to be ‘a father, husband and son’ who was ‘MAGA all the way!!’ The accounts mocked Mr. Biden’s age and shared fake images of him in a prison jumpsuit, or claimed that Mr. Biden was a Satanist pedophile while promoting Mr. Trump’s ‘Make America Great Again’ slogan.”
Any of these actions by China could be a trigger for an international conflagration pitting America and Asian democracies against an axis of China, North Korea, and Russia. If Europe jumped in to help, we’d be in the middle of World War III faster than most imagine possible.

Another hostile dictatorship that believes a Trump presidency would work to its advantage is Iran, which has worked with Republican presidential candidates before. It’s today run by the heirs to the regime that successfully handed the 1980 election to Reagan, and tried to help Trump get elected in 2020.

As the DNI’s
Annual Threat Assessment noted:
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To that end, Russia and Saudi Arabia recently collaborated to cut oil production by 1.4 million barrels a day in an effort to drive up gas prices here in the US, just like they did in October/November of 2022. Since Trump let the Saudis buy the largest refinery in America (at Port Arthur, Texas), expect gas prices to be over $5/gallon this fall.

The stakes are incredibly high for Putin; he may well think an attack against a NATO country, if not answered with a swift, massive response, would reveal weakness in the Biden administration that could help Trump this fall. And if NATO does respond vigorously, that could toss us into WWIII.

Most recently, Trump shouted out to Putin in an echo of Reagan’s traitorous embrace of Iran, essentially asking him to humiliate Biden by holding onto imprisoned Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich until after the election. This has to encourage Russia’s truculence in the face of international pressure to stop killing Ukrainian civilians.

Both the American Civil War and World War II came about when explicitly authoritarian leaders used military force to try to violently destroy democratic nations’ way of life. A predatory new axis has formed including Iran, North Korea, Russia, and China that is every bit as opposed to representative government as was Hitler’s Third Reich.

And Trump empowered them by killing the Iran nuclear deal President Obama had negotiated, allowing them to resume making nukes; embracing Kim and Xi; and giving top-secret information to Putin.

Meanwhile, three of those nations are actively involved in propaganda operations — principally exploiting social media and Republican politicians like Marjorie Taylor Greene and JD Vance — to denigrate democracy and majority rule and elevate oligarchy and strongman rule.

Will one of these “help Trump get elected while advancing our own interests” scenarios by one or more of these axis nations lead to the end of democracy in America or a third world war? At this point it’s too early to tell, but EU and Asian democracies are increasingly worried about that exact scenario.

In war, things can change suddenly in ways nobody anticipated; events frequently spiral out of control (as did the events leading to WWI). We all need to stay alert and remain outspoken about the dangers Trump represents, and do what we can to support democracy worldwide.

Forewarned is forearmed: pass it along.
 
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