FERO 336x3W and more, perpetual 12-12
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PetFlora
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Have you pH tested the runoff?
Could also be she doesn't like that combination of lights. Weezard on another site has found some strains do not much care for leds. He took those outside and they perked up. Moved em back under the leds and they sagged.
As if we don't have enough to know about
Could also be she doesn't like that combination of lights. Weezard on another site has found some strains do not much care for leds. He took those outside and they perked up. Moved em back under the leds and they sagged.
As if we don't have enough to know about
puffenuff
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what strains dont "like" leds? Or what are the common characteristics of the strains that don't? I haven't come across anything that indicates plants don't do anything other than love leds. ive grown over a dozen different stains over the past two years under led and haven't noticed them not liking it. when I hear that strains don't like leds I don't buy it. Maybe they didn't like the spectrums that guy was using but that cant be blamed on the led tech itself, I would call it user or spectrum fault. Just my observations.
Eraserhead
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What distance do you have the light from the tops of the plants?
Plenty times I've had issues with some unexplained weird leaf action, and backing the light off has helped in a lot of cases.
Plenty times I've had issues with some unexplained weird leaf action, and backing the light off has helped in a lot of cases.
Endur0xX
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It is a possibility that my light was a bit too close, however the buds that are the closest to the light are showing no signs of fading/bleaching. (it's about 10-12'' from the AO and much further from the rest, I ll take pics with the measuring tape later) I raised the light a couple inches last night because I thought the same thing. I have not seen any signs of bleach though its only the fan leaves fading to yellow too soon.
I agree, if a light is good for 1 strain, it's good for all strain... I don't buy into this, be prepared though because the next thing coming up will be seedbanks selling seeds from LED breeder and asking more money for ''LED strains'' pretending to sell genetics that does better with LEDs... non sense if you ask me.
My Friend BadKarma and I were having an argument over this topic in a different thread, he claimed that white widow strains dont do as well with leds, guess what? I am germinating a white widow now
I am sure BadKarma will stop by at one point or another, hopefully I can prove him wrong with the 1 seed I have haha.Thank you guys for the inputs, I raised the light, I gave her a small feed, and now we'll see how she does in a few days!!
Happy growing everyone
Eraserhead
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I'd back it off to at least 24", not only for better coverage, but also so it's not so intense on the plants right beneath it.
Endur0xX
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24'' from the AO would bring the light too far from the rest, I gotta put my hands on milk crates to raise them up. I just got done with work yesterday and I am home for the winter now, I will have more time to make everything more efficient. You are right though I think I was forgetting how strong the light really is. In the tent the light is way up and everything is doing amazingly well. I ll upload a few pics of the tent later. I got a few ladies with pretty nice curves ...
Very sorry I can not agree that White Widow strains don't do well under LEDs, but of course, they just need some more weeks for flowering than the other strains, normally WW needs 11-14 weeks flowering.My Friend BadKarma and I were having an argument over this topic in a different thread, he claimed that white widow strains dont do as well with leds, guess what? I am germinating a white widow now
Thank you guys for the inputs, I raised the light, I gave her a small feed, and now we'll see how she does in a few days!!
Happy growing everyone
The Dawg
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I Agree With Brother EH.When Sally Grew Too Close To My Led I Had A Couple Of Leaves Do The Twist And Curl
Endur0xX
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When I came back from being gone for 4 days, that was enough for the canopy in the tent to get out of control, I am going to harvest some plants tonight and if I do so I will move some plants from the room to the tent and from the tent to the room and try to get a more even canopy. Man those Agent Orange are just loving 12/12 from seed. I had to tie them down because they were 3 times as high as anything else in the tent, now they are showing off some nice curves!!
Finally I got a Chemo that will yield significantly more than any other I have grown 12/12 from seed so far. It won't get taller but wider and the side branches are a bit further from the main cola that what I usually have been getting. I spent a bit of time on her and I had her right in the middle of the tent for the crucial part of her development... the AO didnt seem to mind being in the corner anyway!!
Stay tuned if you like this strain because I am going to grow the original from UBC (the strain that was developed in the 70's by the University of British Columbia for pain relief, I am getting the seeds from woodhorse seed bank as well as some Herijuana!!) The original UBC chemo is a super Indica that grows golf ball size nugs everywhere. Looking forward to it because the pheno from Jordan of the Island is delicious but it's doesnt look like and taste like the Chemo I was once smoking.
Happy growing everyone
Finally I got a Chemo that will yield significantly more than any other I have grown 12/12 from seed so far. It won't get taller but wider and the side branches are a bit further from the main cola that what I usually have been getting. I spent a bit of time on her and I had her right in the middle of the tent for the crucial part of her development... the AO didnt seem to mind being in the corner anyway!!
Stay tuned if you like this strain because I am going to grow the original from UBC (the strain that was developed in the 70's by the University of British Columbia for pain relief, I am getting the seeds from woodhorse seed bank as well as some Herijuana!!) The original UBC chemo is a super Indica that grows golf ball size nugs everywhere. Looking forward to it because the pheno from Jordan of the Island is delicious but it's doesnt look like and taste like the Chemo I was once smoking.
Happy growing everyone
Endur0xX
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PM ALERT!!!
Last night I saw on my Chemo that was doing so well some PM (powdery mildew), I was like WTF!!! looked around and I found 2 leaves that had traces of it on a younger Agent Orange as well, so 2 plants affected in the tent. It's the early stage of it and I am really considering pulling both of them out. I had just dropped some Agent Orange pollen on 2 little nugs of the Chemo... Anyway, I removed the affected leaves, brought the portable fan at canopy level instead of being on the cealing blowing down. As soon as I see any, ANY sign of PM on either one of those 2 plants I will take them out, I sure hope I don't see it on other plants in the tent, the 2 AO in the corner are doing so well.
This morning I go into my room, what do I see, PM!!! On a younger plant that was just starting to bud, 2 plants in the same container, the one next to it shows no sign of PM yet so I pulled the affected plant (she was so purdy...) from the container and disposed of it. I really dont get it, she was in the middle of the room getting plenty of fresh air from the portable fans, RH at 40 and temp at 24-29 . I am puzzled. I am thinking perhaps I might have brought this from my outdoor squash or something (there is a fair bit of PM in my yard atm...) but still my environment doesnt make it easy for PM to grow... very frustrating.
I really don't want to have to start fighting PM in my perpetual setup it will be a nightmare. I am worry I am gonna lose a bunch of buds, and time...
If I have to start over, there will be no more 12/12 from seed, it will be one batch at a time so that I can clean my setup very well in between grows, it could also be my problem ,... I am on my second run in a row without really cleaning , but everything looks clean!!
AH FUCK ,... anyway, HAPPY GROWING EVERYONE
Last night I saw on my Chemo that was doing so well some PM (powdery mildew), I was like WTF!!! looked around and I found 2 leaves that had traces of it on a younger Agent Orange as well, so 2 plants affected in the tent. It's the early stage of it and I am really considering pulling both of them out. I had just dropped some Agent Orange pollen on 2 little nugs of the Chemo... Anyway, I removed the affected leaves, brought the portable fan at canopy level instead of being on the cealing blowing down. As soon as I see any, ANY sign of PM on either one of those 2 plants I will take them out, I sure hope I don't see it on other plants in the tent, the 2 AO in the corner are doing so well.
This morning I go into my room, what do I see, PM!!! On a younger plant that was just starting to bud, 2 plants in the same container, the one next to it shows no sign of PM yet so I pulled the affected plant (she was so purdy...) from the container and disposed of it. I really dont get it, she was in the middle of the room getting plenty of fresh air from the portable fans, RH at 40 and temp at 24-29 . I am puzzled. I am thinking perhaps I might have brought this from my outdoor squash or something (there is a fair bit of PM in my yard atm...) but still my environment doesnt make it easy for PM to grow... very frustrating.
I really don't want to have to start fighting PM in my perpetual setup it will be a nightmare. I am worry I am gonna lose a bunch of buds, and time...
If I have to start over, there will be no more 12/12 from seed, it will be one batch at a time so that I can clean my setup very well in between grows, it could also be my problem ,... I am on my second run in a row without really cleaning , but everything looks clean!!
AH FUCK ,... anyway, HAPPY GROWING EVERYONE
Endur0xX
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they are budding and I can't get my head wrapped around spraying H2O2 on my plants!!
I hear jorge cervantes dipped the freshly harvested contaminated buds in H2O2 then rinse and dry, I could never do that!!!
I have one plant outside also badly affected (not on the buds yet...) almost ready too, would the PM get into the hash if I was to make hash with the whole plant?
Fuck I hate mold
Amaximus
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I had the same problems towards the end of my Liberty Haze grow... I made a h2o2 solution and sprayed all my buds at the start of each day. That took care of the exposed PM so that I could continue my grow but it was an everyday battle. If you remember I harvested a bit early and gave everyone of my girls a h2o2 wash exactly how cervantes shows in his video... It did the trick for me. My buds were all fine... As a matter of fact they are all smoked and gone. 
Good luck, End.
Good luck, End.
Endur0xX
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I had the same problems towards the end of my Liberty Haze grow... I made a h2o2 solution and sprayed all my buds at the start of each day. That took care of the exposed PM so that I could continue my grow but it was an everyday battle. If you remember I harvested a bit early and gave everyone of my girls a h2o2 wash exactly how cervantes shows in his video... It did the trick for me. My buds were all fine... As a matter of fact they are all smoked and gone.
Good luck, End.
jorge cervantes is such a nice guy, hard not to listen to his advices ... I will definitely be doing on my outdoor plant because she is beautiful and smells great and I don't want to use her for hash only. Sure it's ok to smoke h2o2 residual1!!??
Amaximus
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I hope so, I've smoked over 4 ounces treated haze already... heh. Seriously... It evaporates, There is no residue. Tried and true. I was amazed how well it worked. Right down to the PM you "wash" off floating on the top of the water.... Make the solution. Dip your branches in, leave for about 3 minutes... Take out, Rinse off. Hang them and put a fan on them for a few hours. When they're no longer wet you continue your harvest as normal...
That's for the harvest anyway... As far as treating them before the harvest, just make a spray solution and spray all your plants early in the day so your lights have a chance to dry them all before it's light out again. I noticed a difference immediately...
Added: Start of my PM problems and my use of H2o2 <---In case you want to read up a little. I think after my initial post there are a few followups with some pictures... Good luck.
Endur0xX
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EMERGENCY!! I have 4 plants sitting outside the tent now waiting for some advices from you guys, can you please help me take a decision?
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hyroot
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Old hippy Humboldt trick. Lemon solution spray. 1/4 tsp of lemon juice in a quart of water. I use tap water. It works instantly. Just shake plant afterwards and maybe put a fan on it for 10 min to help dry.
I've tried baking soda solution too. It worked a little, but stained the leaves. I read that it also breaks down cellulose tissue.
Neem works but suffocates the plant causing stress and possible herme.
You are organic so why use a chem to do it?
I've tried baking soda solution too. It worked a little, but stained the leaves. I read that it also breaks down cellulose tissue.
Neem works but suffocates the plant causing stress and possible herme.
You are organic so why use a chem to do it?
Endur0xX
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Oh I was going to copy your answer I see you have done that already, I thought it needed to be in my journal. Like I said on the other thread, I was tired last night and just wanted to go to bed and I had all those plants sitting outside the tent and my research were lame I kept getting distracted and I was making no progress. Like you said, the baking soda stains the leaves so I didnt want to use this method because then your garden looks like shit and it's hard to tell if it's coming out again.
Sorry for the panic, I tend to panic with mold...
REP to you this time Hyroot.! My plants are back in their environment and I will keep a very close eye on them, If I do see any sign of PM within a week I will probably get rid of them. But I think it should be fine I caught them in the very early stage and with the lemon juice and additional air flow, it should be fine. Would you do another lemon juice spray in a few days or not until I see traces of PM?
THANKS!
Sorry for the panic, I tend to panic with mold...
REP to you this time Hyroot.! My plants are back in their environment and I will keep a very close eye on them, If I do see any sign of PM within a week I will probably get rid of them. But I think it should be fine I caught them in the very early stage and with the lemon juice and additional air flow, it should be fine. Would you do another lemon juice spray in a few days or not until I see traces of PM?
THANKS!